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The problem, in my mind:
republicans/regressives (read nazis) actually get in line and vote for the R next to any name that they've heard in the last week (if not just because it has an R), which means that they actually get shit done (making things worse, but they all get behind it is my point).
On the other hand, democrats/leftists/progressives all sit here and fight one another because of reasons, some good, and some just a little silly in the grand scheme of things. This group doesn't know how to effectively work together to slowly and surely get to the same end goal.
The differences here are why regressives are able to rat fuck an entire nation, collectively, because they don't bicker with each other, their allies, about the smaller details.
The democrats/leftists/progressives are too busy trying to fight hundreds of different problems/battles that would all be solved (eventually, mind you, not right away like we wish it would be) by banding together and keeping the movement momentum going AFTER winning the election.
For an example, gaza and trans rights issues. Both VERY valid issues, and they should be discussed. What happened was those same groups focused way too much on the smaller details instead of the big picture. What SHOULD have happened was we voice our concerns on the issues, vote for the person (at this time, Harris) who had the highest chance of those issues being solved, and then keeping the fire going by continuing to press these concerns to THAT administration.
Look at it this way, even though it is too late: if Kamala had won, you'd be able to sit there and protest any actions that weren't being made towards your/your groups issues, and if we could all get on the same god damned page, you would have more allies who are more at ease with the current admin who could protest with you, because things aren't dire enough for them to focus on them and theirs (read fuck you, got mine). Under the orange buffoon, you can now get deported for protesting anything, let alone trans rights and gaza genocide. So, those allies you could've had are now being deported, killed, or arrested, and that makes others scared to protest with you.
TL;DR: Allowing the nazis to win because democrats/leftists/progressives can't see the bigger picture, and choose to focus on their own issues only (or at the very least, make it their highest priority when we should know that's not how it works, unfortunately) is the reason we have the orange shitler in office right now. This group is trying to fight 100 different battles, while regressives lock step and take away all the good we had achieved, instead of banding together and just doing the literal bare minimum (vote in the "neo-lib"). Full stop.
@PugJesus@lemmy.world is right, whether you like it or not.
Thank you for referring to them as regressives. I've been trying to normalize that for years. They are not conservatives anymore, if they ever were. They want to take our society backward.
You're right about regressives working together to achieve their end goal. But it's because they're in a cult. They're brainwashed. The left is not. Certainly not even remotely to the same degree. So we argue amongst ourselves. And in a way that's a strength. Cultist groupthink usually doesn't lead to good places. But yeah, if the left doesn't learn to groupthink on the macro issues, then we're just going to keep losing to fanatics.
The people that chose not to vote or flush their vote down the drain with a 3rd party are fools who couldn't see the big picture and what was really at stake. And now we're paying for their foolishness. Hopefully in the future they can learn from their mistake, but I'm not holding my breath. They seem to care more about their perceived moral superiority than the wellbeing of our nation and its citizens.
I'm staunchly in the camp of "If we are not moving forward in our country, we are doing something wrong" progressives, and still voted for Kamala because she was the only option at the MOMENT for people like me who can see the bigger picture and that small victories can lead to major victories.
They have been regressives since reagan at the least!
I'm okay with cult think as long as it is a cult that is dedicated to giving poor people food and healthcare and a living wage! Sign me the fuck up!