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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (14 children)

The funny thing is, advanced data protection was optional, and not on by default. Apple just stopped offering it in the UK

https://support.apple.com/en-us/108756

When it’s enabled, they can’t access iCloud data at all, even with a warrant due to the fact it’s E2E with keys they don’t control. That’s what the UK got really mad about. But Apple shut the whole feature down for the UK in response to the backdoor ask.

It’s not different from the UK banning signal because it’s E2E encrypted and they can’t access it.

They’re likely only backing down now because of consumer/media backlash

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Apple would need to supply the data if they had the encryption key right? So can we assume that even Apple cannot see the encrypted data?

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Correct, standard iCloud data is accessible with a warrant. But the UK wanted their own backdoor so they have constant access without a warrant.

But with advanced data protection, Apple can’t provide the data because they don’t have the encryption keys, regardless of a warrant.

Important to note iMessage is always E2E encrypted though, so iMessages cannot be accessed even with a warrant. Advanced data protection just expands that to all iCloud data

[–] Natanael 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Using iMessage with backups does mean the backups are unencrypted and accessible by warrant (unless you use advanced data protection)

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Ah yes, that's true as well

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