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Plato's Noble Lie (existentialcomics.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by davu@mander.xyz to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world

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[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Nah Plato was right. Not about the numbers though.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 3 weeks ago

When you're starting on a foundation of knowing bugger all it's impressive when any of the stuff you come up with is true!

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He was right only about the numbers.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

A lot of people can’t and won’t learn “virtue”. This is a fact you can observe with your own eyes by simply going outside and looking at how many people despite having all the tools to learn to be better refuse to do so. Plato was right.

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"What is virtue? How can it be taught?" - Socrates

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

You can’t, thus you condition through coercion.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ok Leo Strauss

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

"I figure that's just the human material, and him that finds in it cause for anger and dismay is just a fool for expecting better. "

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

It is because I do not expect them to do better that I believe Plato is right. If people are not able to willingly make themselves better then we need to resort to coercion, the noble lie.