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[–] flandish@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

what about uniformed nazis or uniformed zionists?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"So who can I refuse treatment to?"

"That's the neat part. You don't."

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

never have refused. never will.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But do u think its important that u retain the right to? Even if you don't intend to use it.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the right to refuse providing life saving service to someone? even if I consider the person no longer a human because they chose to become a nazi?

not an actual right. if you can’t provide it, to everyone, even people who disgust you, you’re in the wrong industry.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting so you would feel obligated to save Hitlers life from an injury that would be fatal without ur intervention?

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

reductio ad absurdum.

the guy having a heart attack by the mcdonalds with nazi tattoos is a nazi. not the same as literal hitler. still an inhuman piece of shit. still worthless. still required to provide care. not the target of a worldwide multinational military operation requiring millions of russians to take berlin.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

reductio ad absurdum.

I don't think so. If you do not retain the right to refuse service you must save Hitlers life. Given that the logic leads us to this ultimatum u must choose save Hitlers life ur retain the right to refuse service based on personal moral views.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

think so

well then, you’re fucking wrong.

also “save life” different than “attempt”

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Answer the ultimatum. That's all I ask.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

your ultimatum was impossible to answer and absurd, so no.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

your ultimatum was impossible to answer

Yes that's the point. U cannot hold any 2 beliefs without running into at least one contradiction. Do u compromise on one belief or do u continue living pracricing literal doublethink.

and absurd

All hypotheticals are, that's why they are a hypothetical

, so no.

I guess u have chosen doublethink. I wouldn't want to be on the side of the absolute authoritarian big brother but that's just me I guess.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

no no. the impossible part is that he’s already dead. you cannot be presented with your example.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's why its a hypothetical.

One if the most amazing powers of the human brain is the ability to displace ourselves in time and space and imagine what we would do in such a situation.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

well my point and standing is not hypothetical. try again.

[–] muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain

I give up I have been thoroughly beaten by experience

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

“Don’t cut yourself on all that edge, bro.” - Abe Lincoln

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