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[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

My 2 cents:

  • I think that saying was about democracy, not capitalism
  • Bear in mind that US is a capitalist lunapark. Most developed countries understood that social policies are absolutely necessary for people, even though we could call those countries a "capitalist country" or countries "based on capitalism". Just saying that don't take what's happenning in the US as a base because it's not
  • If we're about to start to brainstorm about different systems - bear in mind that (not all but many) people are greedy, proud, jealous and sometimes assholes. And personally, I have a really hard time to design a system that would handle all those wonderful human treats in some decent way

P.S. I was born in socialist Czechoslovakia and its goal was noble but ... it's amazing to watch human greed and jealousy to take over a system like socialism

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Yah and a lot of the time you hear that saying about democracy people say basically 'it's not great but it's better than anything else we've tried'.

I would also add to what you're saying about the lunapark - capitalism could work as part of a larger system. At least I think it could. But the uber rich have decimated the normal checks and balances which are the most important element to any system - not just a capitalist democracy.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Yep this is my understanding.

Most Western democracies have capitalism plus socialised services like health and defence.

I think our only hope is for aliens or AI to take over. Whenever humans form a large group, the worst qualities rise to the top. This is how we became the dominant species, but we don't need it anymore.