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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn’t even find the one that I like to use that shows that capitalism averaged 20 million deaths due to starvation alone every single year of the 20th century.

Claiming that 2 billion people died of capitalist-caused starvation in the 20th century when not even 200 million total actually died of starvation, including the famines in the PRC and USSR, in the 20th century?

Yeah, that's about the level of academic rigor I'd expect from your sources at this point.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Source? You have spouted all sorts of pro capitalist bullshit and sourced none of it.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Source?

https://www.ids.ac.uk/download.php?file=files%2Fdmfile%2Fwp105.pdf

But please tell me more about how capitalism killed an order of magnitude more people through starvation in the 20th century than died through starvation in total.

You have spouted all sorts of pro capitalist bullshit and sourced none of it.

"Pro-capitalist bullshit is when you think starvation, homelessness, and extreme poverty predate capitalism just because societies that predate capitalism had starvation, homelessness, and extreme poverty; or when you think the 'cycle of capitalism' in the modern day has nothing to do with mass death through starvation just because capitalist countries in the modern day go through this dogshit cycle but still don't experience mass starvation"

Yes, what a radical pro-capitalist I am, you really caught me.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your source is discussing famine specifically, not starvation overall. It even touches on this while talking about economic entitlements in one of the middle sections. It does seem to be true that many fewer people died of famine than starvation in general because of capitalist failures of distribution.

Try again.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your source is discussing famine specifically, not starvation overall. It even touches on this while talking about economic entitlements in one of the middle sections.

Jesus fucking Christ, you didn't even read the section you claimed to. Did you just see 'economic entitlement' and decide to make up what you wanted it to say in your head?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I read the entire paper. Sorry I used the wording in the paper to make a point about what the paper doesn't talk about.

That section was discussing how the four economic factors are compounded by famine and can contribute to famine.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I read the entire paper.

In five minutes, you read some 8,000 words.

lmao.

You're not even trying to be believable.

Sorry I used the wording in the paper to make a point about what the paper doesn’t talk about.

Yes, I'm also sorry that you're trying to use the wording in the paper to make implications that are not only not addressed by the paper, but directly contradicted in places.

That section was discussing how the four economic factors are compounded by famine and can contribute to famine.

Jesus Christ. You didn't even skim it.