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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thank you for that second source. It's much more enlightening from how the Guardian framed it.

My point was more about things needed to be done by officials about anti social behaviour - as it can fuel racism. While that still stands, from the comments shown on The Journal, it shows that racism was clearly a factor. More than I had originally estimated.

I would also say though:

After thousands of people gathered in the town to demonstrate about women’s safety, their concerns were weaponised by a smaller, more violent group who used the protest as an excuse to take aim at the wider immigrant population.

That original group about safety shouldn't be categorised with a brush about racism

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

how the Guardian framed it.

You mean the Guardian showed racist cunts as racist cunts by quoting their own words?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The guardian made it seem like there was a pre-existing problem. Although several people I know from Ballymena did corroborate that there have been issues from individuals from that part of the community. I know a shopkeeper who had to refuse entry to them, alleging that they were always stealing things or trying to scam the shop. My impression from the guardian article was that such issues have calmed down since the riots, showing that there was a failure of law enforcement to keep the area in check beforehand.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No. The Guardian showed that racist cunts had a problem with foreigners and racist cunts were happy when they ethnically cleansed them.