Yep, PHP is turning 30 this year! Wondering if "PHP is still relevant?" Ever since we have been hearing that PHP is dead. It was “dead” 10 years ago, 5 years ago, and “is dead” today. But somehow - it isn’t. Anyway... happy birthday!

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[–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 36 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Everyone in this thread: PHP sucks because it was bad when I last used it 20 years ago.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 16 points 2 weeks ago

It's still bad nowadays, and it's the main language used on pretty much every system of several state level secretaries in Brazil. My colleagues work with it daily (I don't program, thankfully) and they're not exactly fond of it. Legacy systems, man

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Backend devs: JS sucks because I never learned it actually

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean it does suck, but it sucks less than anything else we have.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, i'd say java has been better than PHP overall

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's also 30 years old, old man!

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

A language usually doesn't become worse with time, at least if the devs do a good job at improving it.

There are cases of new languages that looked better but didn't become mainstream because the ecosystem requires time to grow (and adoption, which creates a vicious cycle because adoption requires ecosystem to already be there)

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

IDK, I like Django/DRF

[–] PolarKraken@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FastAPI ftw, fight me! Lol jk Django is cool and useful and serves a different need, quite well from what I understand.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol I've used both, FastAPI is nice too! I think my ideal situation would be FastAPI's endpoints/routing, combined with Django's ORM and DRF's automagic serializers/viewsets.

[–] richieadler@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

You may like Django Ninja with a dash of FastAPI-HTMX or Fasthx.

[–] PolarKraken@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Dangit. That's me too, I just saw your comment before posting one myself 😅