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[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 73 points 2 weeks ago (47 children)

The protocol is bloated to hell so third-party clients stand no chance, and the foundation spends more time bikeshedding or pissing away money than they do developing. It's a doomed project.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 weeks ago (43 children)
[–] Sickday@kbin.earth 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] ExFed@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago

Not when the entirety of your conversations are jargon and in-jokes!

/s

[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Define secure. You can run your own network.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 2 points 2 weeks ago

xmpp isn't.

(Ok I get xmpp alone is but every modern client supports the same two encryption methods so judge for yourself)

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