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The entitlement of some Ontario drivers is absolutely astonishing. They are fully aware that you are breaking the law by going 15% over the speed limit. And yet they victimize themselves? (infosec.pub)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/ontario@lemmy.ca

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"I hate these damn bike lanes. Screw your studies. I'm not reading that"

"Cut gas taxes. I see no reason why I should pay to support public transit"

"Fuck speed limits. I'm proud to break the law"

This sense of entitlement is insane.

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[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

Speed cameras are a money grab and should be abolished because they don't actually result in safer driving and really is just a revenue generator.

Instead non-highway roads should be narrowed or otherwise calmed (and use that extra space for bike/pedestrian paths), this naturally causes almost all drivers to slow down, which increases safety. (source)

[–] Davriellelouna@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Are speed cameras really effective? There are multiple studies that looked at this.

And the answer is yes, they are:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1963295/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3861844/

The car crashes that happen in Ontario cost society far more ressources (police, hospitals, nurses, medication, surgeries) that any of the money raised by speeding tickets.

Road narrowing is a great idea. It can be applied to local streets.

But the people who hate speed cameras are going to absolutely FREAK OUT if you suggest road narrowing as a potential solution.

[–] three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

re: first study

Results. The relative risk (RR) of a road collision occurring on the beltway after (vs before) installation of speed cameras was 0.73 (95% confidence interval [CI]=0.63, 0.85). This protective effect was greater during weekend periods. No differences were observed for arterial roads (RR=0.99; 95% CI=0.90, 1.10). Attributable fraction estimates for the 2 years of the study intervention showed 364 collisions prevented, 507 fewer people injured, and 789 fewer vehicles involved in collisions.

I looked it up, it looks like the Beltway is functionally equivalent to a US interstate. This makes some sense, as speeds on interstates are going to be higher than on arterials (and the arterials in Spain probably aren't as bad as our stroads in the US).

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