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If I understand them correctly and they're a tankie then there's nothing wrong about this statement in their eyes, in their view the left side is very right wing conservative and the right side is moderate conservative "liberal" but none are "the left" so to them they're not attacking left wing anything.
Which is part of a broader problem of "Anyone who isn't us isn't a REAL leftist"
Which itself implies that "real leftists" are a rounding error in the population and can never hope to effect the change they seek.
They get around that by claiming, like evangelical Christians seeking converts, that everyone (or every member of the working class, at least) is their kind of leftist deep down in their heart of hearts (except for ~~Satan's minions~~ the GREAT Satan's minions) and the only reason they aren't overwhelmingly in control of society is because of The Word being Kept Down by Evil Forces.
We really need to build a coalition of leftists with, y'know, some sense of political strategy. Maybe an offshoot of TankieJerk.
Online work is (as the gruesome and unfortunate events of 2015/2016 have shown) surprisingly effective at generating enthusiasm, but actual organizing is still most effective on the ground. I mention this seemingly unrelated point because an overinflated sense of how 'real' an online community is can lead to some very ugly circlejerks and denial of reality. And also, the Fediverse is still fucking tiny, lol.
That being said, I'd love to join a comm like that. I couldn't moderate it though - I'm far too volatile a personality for coalition-building. Also I moderate too many comms as it is, lmao.
Yeah I definitely don't have time to moderate myself either. I made one niche comm and immediately realized I couldn't commit to moderation so did absolutely nothing to promote it.
Still, seems like a productive conversation to be had. I'm sure someone had the inclination and the time.
Heard that. Still, online work could be a great way to kickstart the groundwork.
If one hypothetically were to create such a comm (with the express intent of relinquishing moderation to a more suitable party as soon as possible), which instance do you think is best suited? I've seen your takes, I know you're active, I respect your opinion.
I've been intending to leave Lemmy for Piefed, but I'm not overly familiar with Piefed instances yet.
.world is the boring answer. For all the flak it gets, most of its trouble is that admins don't generally interfere with comm moderation, and thus a significant amount of .world comms have... questionable moderation. In this case, though, that's an advantage. But it's an institutionally robust instance, the largest, permissive for our purposes, and the admins are at least willing to walk back dumbass decisions if there's public outcry.
sh.itjust.works would be the other major option.
dbzer0 is a good instance for most things, but the aggressively anti-electoralist stance of the admins makes it an uncomfortable fit for "Let's make a new coalition in the current political environment."
Most other servers are either small, or have a regional/topical bend to them which may not be desirable.
I get that. I feel like the least tech-capable person on Lemmy, so I don't really get into the fediverse meta. In any case, doesn't hurt to have a wide presence.
Yeah.
I'll admit I'm not really savvy to the intricacies of Lemmy politics, but my username betrays a mild bias. I do enjoy the ethos it implicitly suggests by its name.
Tell me about it. Them or slrpnk was my first instinct, and as much as I agree with them on a lot of things, they seem to have been infected with the ideology-uber-alles bug.
They aren't serious political actors with consistent or defensible positions, they are nationalist campists if not outright propagandists.
The only acceptable Western leader to them is one that will cause the most internal chaos and self-destruction while leaving BRICS (mostly China and Russia) alone. Left-right politics has little to do with it. They don't want us to coalesce into progressive countries, they want us to collapse and suffer.
The only acceptable western leader to me is one who leaves BRICS alone. Partly because I live in it, and partly because it now contains the majority of the world. Also at least don't enable literal genocide. I definitely don't want them to cause internal chaos wherever they leave, but destroying the World Bsnk / IMF and other instruments of neocolonialism would be nice.