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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Clinton admin handed over a lot of info to the Bush admin, who then tossed it. Including them in the ball dropping maybe implies that the info they had wasn't convincing enough, i.e. they ignored better data that would convince the next Presidential administration? It's been a while since I've been down that rabbit hole, but I did not get the impression that whatever incompetence that existed was equally shared on both sides.

Basically, this was all ~~Bush's~~ Cheney's baby.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My money would be on the Bush admin bearing the lion's share of the blame, but I've also not done enough of a deep dive on it to absolve the Clinton administration of responsibility, so I included them as possible ball-droppers.

[–] School_Lunch@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

You might want to check out "The Looming Tower". Its probably over dramaticized, but it follows FBI agent John O'Neil played by Jeff Daniels. It shows how frustrating it was to deal with the Bush administration. O'Neil was fired and went to work security at the WTC and was killed by the attack.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think Clinton et al. fumbled some balls in their own efforts to address the problem, probably made others worse. But it was the discarding of intelligence as if it wasn't worth at least monitoring that caused 9/11. Something may have eventually happened even with attention to the data, they were dead set on coming after the US, but in a sense we let them in when we didn't have to. I've always said, what if the gov't made the FAA mandate a closed cockpit to all airlines before then, how would that have changed things? A huge shift from just a rule change.