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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Would most native speakers actually pronounce "rooves" differently from "roofs"? Is "grooves" already pronounced differently from a hypothetical "groofs"?

[–] teft@piefed.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

f is the voiceless labiodental fricative and v is the voiced labiodental fricative.

Basically for roofs your vocal cords don't vibrate on the final f sound. For rooves your vocal cords vibrate on the final v sound.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I know the difference between f and v, the question is whether it makes a difference in this specific case and if yes, whether most native English speakers actually know that. I'm not a native English speaker and words that end in -ooves aren't that common (when is the last time you said "grooves" or "hooves"?).

English is famously inconsistent about how written letters are pronounced, and there are a lot of accents.

[–] ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Grooves and hooves are more common words than roofs.

I think I would notice if someone said groofs or hoofs (although that's also a word with a different meaning), but I'm really not sure I'd notice rooves vs roofs.

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