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I was encouraged to create an governance thread for discussion dedicated to community focused around the db0 lemmy instance users. Please see the linked post for context. I decided to leave my original post for potential discussion including voices of outsiders.

In short, not to duplicate information - I'd like to ask our community the following questions:

  1. Is the mod's behaviour of proactively banning users from moderated communities without clear violation in accordance to the instance rules, especially The Golden Rules, which call for "cooperative participation"?
  2. If yes, what actions can be proposed to be taken next to alleviate the issue, not only with the two directly mentioned communities in the linked post, but also others that potentially fall a victim to this kind of mod misbehaviour?

It should also be appropriate to hear the stance of the involved moderators, why they do what they do, but obviously it is up to them to provide clarifications.

Thank you in advance, I love you all.

governance type: sense check

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[–] MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Thanks for coming here and providing your PoV.

After reading the comments on YPTB I can only say this: the f is wrong with some people… I must be living in some bubble where people can have sane reasonable discussion even if they disagree.

I understand you are trying to build communities and defend them against users with ill-intent. I don’t know what your ambitions are as far as the target size of these communities goes, but I just thought that banning users like described simply sends a bad message and, unfortunately, brings unnecessary attention to your person (especially if user does not agree or understands a reason for a ban). Forgive me for inadvertently being a part of the problem.

On the other hand, if you are right that some users made it a hobby out of downvoting all posts from your community and we both want to provide a space for it on Lemmy (on any instance), then this potentially calls for some software feature? Like joinable, discoverable but semi-private communities that don’t appear on "all" with limited voting and posting rights for non-members? I don’t know - you tell me what would be your dream scenario! But definitively I don’t believe you can have it both ways, be totally open and not exposed, especially for controversial themes.

Lastly, allow me to address you as a person. Please don’t understand me wrong as my wording might upset you but I really mean good for you. If you are going through some hardships in your life - don’t ever let the trolls see you are vulnerable. In general, the social media, be it federated or corporate, is not a good place to seek support or publicly confess intimate details of your life. If you really have to because you find that helpful, at least make a second account not used for moderation. Don’t feed the trolls.

Love.

P.S. - you can probably unban me if you are not mad at me, I promise to behave ;)

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I must be living in some bubble where people can have sane reasonable discussion even if they disagree.

Where is this bubble? I wanna be in that bubble!

[–] MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

~~In lemmyverse? This thread seems to be one? :) everyone looks to be respectful so far.~~

Other than that the communities I subscribe to…

it really caught me off guard when I saw comments directly attacking Mystic without even addressing the question, I was not prepared for this shit! Like if there was some history that I missed and I just relit an old flamewar or something

EDIT: yeah I just scrolled down… nevermind my first part of this message

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's so strange to me that I'm fairly hated and some people permaban me on sight, but then I see comments like, "Fuck you stupid alcoholic vodka baby. I bet you’re a russian troll, they love Vodka over there. Also quit pretending to be a woman no one buys this sympathy act that you’re “transgender” by a now just-banned member, @SlipperySlime838585@sh.itjust.works.

I'm floored. Who in their right mind makes fun of recovering alcoholics and mixes it with transphobia in the same fucking comment?

People act like I’m destroying Lemmy just because I post links to news articles they don’t like, meanwhile, there’s garbage like that being said all over the place?

Compared to the homophobic, transphobic, and flat-out hateful words I’ve seen on Lemmy lately, my posts are like reading preschool stories in a padded nursery while the rest of the site sets itself on fire and screams the most hateful slurs ever through a bullhorn.

This place is going down fast.

So yeah, I need to stay in your bubble. I thought I was doing that, but I gotta try harder.

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