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I think it’s more likely that the jury will vote to acquit just based on lack of evidence combined with police misconduct (and incompetence).
The evidence they’ve publicly talked about is both itself fishy and has chain of custody issues.
Normally they’d be able to get away with that because most defendants can’t afford good legal representation and most cases don’t get much scrutiny.
In this case, however, I think those issues completely sink the prosecution’s case and he’ll be acquitted just because the jury won’t believe he’s guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
If at least half of what his lawyer claimed is true and able to be proven in court, he has a decent chance.
This is assuming that everything you've just described is permitted into evidence.
No it doesn’t. He’s innocent until proven guilty.
The evidence presented by the prosecution has to stand up to scrutiny, and it won’t.
But to what scrutiny, precisely? If a judge decides that certain specific problems with the evidence are inadmissible (including police misconduct and chain of custody issues), what other scrutiny could be given to the evidence?
Judges already have a lot of leeway over how they run trials even within the law, and we're talking about a country that has removed even the pretence of rule of law in the past six months (more, if we go back to the Trump v United States ruling last year).
The way it’s described sounded like he was on his way to the next one. Why else would you carry all of that with you?
They didn’t Miranda him. Maybe they didn’t want to Miranda him.
Who says he was carrying it around? Anyone could have stuffed that in there while he wasn't looking.
Nah. I think he did it and was on his way to the next one, stopping at McDonalds instead of Starbucks this time. I don’t think he’s insane. I think he’s just “crazy enough” to do what he did, in the same vein as all those 20-somethings engaged in the American Revolution all of whom pushed past that internal barrier.
People forget most of the famous names of the time were 20s & 30s, with a few “old” guys, like Washington, in their early 40s, likely lending a paternal endorsement to the whole thing.
By the patterns of history, a dam could’ve broken with Luigi, but it didn’t and likely won’t going forward, or it would have already. That ignition point has passed.
This is like Paul Revere getting arrested on the way and everyone just kinda going “ok”, and then watching a cat video or going back to, idk, what are the kids playing these days? Minecraft? Roblox?
What?
Miranda warning is for custodial interrogations, they don't have to read it to you if they aren't asking questions or if its non-custodial (you weren't under arrest). And only those statements made under a custodial interrogation would be inadmissible, everything else would still be admissible, including the gun and manifesto that they supposedly found on him.