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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The jury will be told that they have to find according to the letter of the law, and they'll almost certainly be screened by the prosecution during jury selection to avoid people who know nullification is a thing.

It's certainly possible that it could occur regardless, but they'll do everything they can to avoid it.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 weeks ago

Prosecutor: Potential Juror #5. Are you aware of the concept of Jury Nullification?

Juror: I am now.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How do you screen for jury nullification without informing everyone as to what jury nullification is?

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As far as I'm aware, the closest they can get is to ask something like "Will you promise to carry out the laws of the federal government as written?"

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So how does that work? You’re in a court of law, which makes that an oath, right? Correct me if I’m wrong. Yet juries can render any judgement, including jury nullification, and it’s all legal.

Given the nature of this administration, and the level of mutual gratification occurring between billionaires, CEOs, and this administration, I would not be surprised if they try to break jury immunity in the event of a Luigi verdict that involves jury nullification or innocence.

That and Luigi’s fate likely rests in the same place as all the whistle blowers of 2024. Bill Burr is right. Corporations are the new mafia, they’re simply backed by the law this time.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

If the jury returns innocent, there's absolutely no legal recourse for those gunning for him (regardless of whether it was actual jury nullification, or they legitimately think there's reasonable doubt).

That doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot in a country where extralegal kidnappings and concentration camps are happening, but that's as far as the legal system goes.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Defense has as many strikes as prosecutor....

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

True, but if the prosecution seeks the death penalty (which is likely), any jurors that say they'd have difficulty condemning someone to death will be automatically disqualified with no strikes used.

Since people who don't have any problems with the death penalty is MUCH more likely to have a clear bias in favor of the prosecution and the cops are good at spotting people lying in order to get on (or off) a jury, making it a death penalty case all but eliminates any chance of a fair trial.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

But a strike can't bring back in someone who has been eliminated. You can use your strikes to whittle away people who have a property likely to be bad for you, but you can't use it to include people with a quality that would be good for you.