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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. American long rifles. No, really, despite the exaggerated mythology around them, the use of long rifles as a skirmishing weapon had an immense impact - nearly every European country in the 20 years after the American Revolutionary War began to adopt long(er) rifles of the American style for military use over the old, short-barreled rifles that were previously popular as primarily as hunting weapons. Previous noble dainty tools with barrel lengths of ~16 inches or less were replaced with rifles with barrels of 24-30 inches to resemble American long rifles (the reverse also occurred - as America's post-independence military standardized, we reduced the length of our first standard-issue military rifle from the ~40 inches seen in the traditional long rifle to ~32 inches). Also a reason for their outsized impact in the American Revolutionary War in particular - fucking half the battles had numbers like "83 dead"; a couple of crack-shot yokels could make up a good percentage of that.

  2. The Brits were almost as reliant on local militias as we were - only about half of their forces were professional troops. We tend to focus on the slugfests between Continental Regulars and Redcoats, but much of the war was of frightened militia taking potshots at each other and then scurrying for the hills when panic struck.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ah! Longer barrels mean more velocity and accuracy. As with black powder, as with with modern explosive compositions. Making it hilarious that we make saw-off shotguns (useless!) and short-barrelled rifles (useless!) illegal.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The real advantage in longer rifles was in the velocity, as you mentioned - earlier short rifles had superior precision to long-barreled muskets, but similar effective range. Longer rifles could double or triple the effective range for a skirmisher, which was (ha) revolutionary.

We generally restrict sawn-offs and carbines for reasons of concealability in civilian contexts, rather than military efficacy. Same reason why double-barreled sawn-offs (lupara) had a reputation as a bandit's weapon in 19th and early 20th century Italy - it was something that could be hid under a mafioso's coat and brought out on an unsuspecting target, then hid again. It won't stand up to a dedicated search, but it's much less obvious at a distance than a long-arm slung over your shoulder, decreasing the number and reliability of casual witnesses.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

As you say, the National Firearms Act was mainly a dig on Italian mafioso. Not so relevant now.

And having experience, I say again that short barreled anything is near useless, ability to conceal notwithstanding. You can't hit shit, and if you do, well, I've seen a .45LC through a 2" derringer bounce off a wooden pallet at 30'. Bounce. Imagine that same round through a 30" barrel. That's for buffalo huntin'!