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What does it say about me?
Exactly - there is masculinity and toxic masculinity. How don't you get that simple distinction? They are not the same. Feminism is criticizing toxic masculinity not masculinity as a whole.
What exactly should I do with random raddit posts and a tedX talk? If you have arguments bring them here and let's discuss.
That you appear to be blind to the demonization of men so rampant within feminism, either willfully or because you're a victim of its propaganda machine.
Does feminism ever talk about positive masculinity? That's the problem: they habitually associate masculinity with toxicity. And the characteristics of a gender (what it means to be a man, or a woman) cannot be toxic.
Instead they should be more careful with their terminology and use for example toxic gender expectations. But they don't. And that's telling for a movement that is so sensitive to gendered language.
If you're interested in getting familiar with our arguments and the evidence, then there are some sources. They are not "random".
And if you're not interested, then I think we're done here.
Possible. Also possible that you have a wrong understanding of feminism, based on biased consumption of media - fed by algorithms that drive clicks. Unfortunately there is no way to know.
Yes it does, quite a lot.
It does not. You have that association - but I for example don't. Most likely due to difference in media that we consume.
For longest part it was expected from men to defend their honor though violent means? Don't you think that this is not a really healthy behavior? Talking about toxic elements of a gender - people don't talk about biology but about societal norms and expectations. And those can be very burdensome on the individual. You can read about it - right here in this thread, people feeling the burden of the expectation to be the provider for example.
Actually an argument I could agree with you upon. Toxic gender expectation would indeed be a better term.
Sure you read Simone de Beauvoir: Second Gender (good introduction to classical Feminism - one should have read, has bit of length like all her works, but is quite insightful) - I go though your links and videos and we meet again in, how long do you need for ca. 1000 pages?, and discuss.