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[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 weeks ago (21 children)

Abandoned mine several years ago. Kind of a shame, they were a good option for a while for people who weren't windows fans but didn't want to run linux full time. Apple just doesn't really have any offerings for people who want a desktop that's upgradeable, but don't want to drop the money on a Mac Pro.

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The SSD in the M4 mini is upgradable, for those who aren’t aware.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s replaceable, it’s not upgradable.

Apple doesn’t use standard NVMe M.2 drives. The controller is built into the SoC rather than being on the storage device itself.

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] timetraveller@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Saving this for later.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

it never ceases to amaze me the amount of time, energy and money apple spends engineering things to be worse for customers.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

In this case Apple also prioritizes performance.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s more cost effective to integrate the controller.

Being worse for customers is just a happy accident.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You and I both know that Apple doesnt do this shit for cost efficiency.

They do it to make make shit worse for consumers and "unauthorized" repair services.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 weeks ago

They’re a business. Reducing their costs (while charging you a premium) is absolutely what they do.

Apple’s whole deal for decades now has been building a vertical supply chain. Using their own SSD controller is one less component they have to pay others for.

They just don’t give a shit about downsides: aftermarket repairers or user upgradeability.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Why? Anti-features aren't just Apple. All big tech do it to users.

Edit: And automotive, white goods companies, etc, etc

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

other companies arent engineering serial numbers and other identity information into every component, even shit as small as halleffect sensors, so it cant be taken from a damaged device to repair a differnt device of the same make and model.

To act like what apple does is an industry standard is nothing but blatant apple fanboy propaganda.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 3 weeks ago

Oh no, they are bastards. Extra big bastards in a sea of bastards. I blame regulators. The hope is the right to repair because law in more and more places in more and more market areas.

Without the EU regulators, Apple would never have gone USB C.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

There are some companies as bad as Apple (John Deere comes to mind), but it's certainly not the norm.

User-replacable standard m.2 SSDs are bog standard and non-standard formats are really rare. Apart from Apple I can not think of many companies that do that. IIRC Red Magic cameras, and Synology NAS but that's the only ones I can think of.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is this a take in regards to soldering in new flash chips or replacing a board and then needing to wrestle Apple support during an RMA to replace a faulty component (because I quiet confidently believe, Apple will cross check your hardware with their records from the serial number).

And I don't believe regular PC manufacturers/OEMs are that hard to argue with if I insert my own SSD.

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And how much does Apple like that?

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesnt work during an RMA.
After that: Yeah, sure.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

You could always just swap the original part back in if you need to do an RMA.

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