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[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Don't you see that the uncommitted movement has the exact same argument?

No they don't have the same argument. Biden was changed out for Kamala and that still wasn't good enough. She has a better voting record than Bernie in the Senate.

Moreover, we have data on Kamala and trump in the Whitehouse. No one can say they didn't know it would be like this.

When push comes to shove you don't vote for someone who pushes through a 168 billion dollar gestappo budget. It's not the same fucking thing. You vote for someone who responds to criticism not revels in the chaos and cruelty. Jesus Christ you people are insane.

ID RATHER KILL PEOPLE THAN COMPROMISE

fucking moron

They told you repeatedly, over and over, clearly, for over a year, that running a Democratic candidate who supports the ongoing genocide will drastically reduce turnout in the Democrat base.

Not me, I'm a Bernie camp voter, zohran fan, etc. I just have a soul. Conceding to the Democrats to keep the worst president we've ever had out of office for a 2nd term is an easy choice.

The voting results show that they were right.

Yeah, the point isnt about who they selected it's about who YOU VOTED FOR.

You can try to self-soothe by saying "I told you so", yet they can do the exact same thing.

No they can't, see above.

This accomplishes nothing except further factionalization of the Democrat vote.

No one who was willing to "protest" during this election is actually a good person. They can just put their red hats on. They are playing for the selfish team so put on the uniform.

Your focus on infighting is misplaced at a time when we need to be building coalition to fight Trump and fascism.

That's fucking rich considering we just had a FUCKING ELECTION WHERE WE COULDVE DONE EXACTLY THAT

[–] Krono@lemmy.today -2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Biden was changed out for Kamala and that wasn't good enough for a portion of the Democratic Party electorate because both candidates support the Israeli genocide. If you were paying attention before the election this should come as no surprise.

Your strawman arguments and insults do not change the ground reality. Your argument is the same as theirs: "if my political opponents would have acted differently then fascism wouldn't have taken over." This is a childish way to look at politics; political factions and voters have never behaved this way.

Your impotant rage does not align with the fact that, even if all third party voters went for Kamala, she still would have lost.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

both candidates support the Israeli genocide.

Man, the world must be pretty black and white for you. Which must be pretty easy to achieve when you completely ignore the complexities of international relations.

When one side maintains an important allegiance but still openly states they are not fine with what their ally is doing, floats arms shipment cancellations, and helps try to broker a peace deal, that is very different from the other side openly stating they support that ally's aggression and even float building a resort once that ally has eradicated their opposition.

Anyone with an adult brain inside their skull would look at the situation and pick the option that's less destructive to the people they claim to care about. To ensure those people are as protected as they have the power to make them.

But we're not talking about people with adult brains inside their skulls.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

You seem to be confused, suggesting that by "both candidates" that I was referring to Harris and Trump, but anyone with an adult brain would understand that "both candidates" refers to Biden and Harris.

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