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Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They've been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren't Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it's bots or wumao. Human beings can't possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It’s CPC

What are you on about, it's both?

there’s no reason to believe otherwise apart from being a dumb little racist baby who thinks only white people can do socialism properly.

Maybe the fact it's a dictatorship with no power to the people? Tell me, what Chinese factory workers own their means of production?

Call me a racist? Cuba and Burkina Faso are true attempts at socialism, while the USSR under Stalin was not (Lenin was good though).

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

CPSU, CPV, CPK, etc.. CCP is a weird, racist neologism coined by the west to emphasize the "Chinese" part of the moniker. CPC is the standard nomenclature.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

communism is an internationalist movement. why would we ever put nationality before the fact that we're communists?

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because they're not real communists.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

in what way is your judgment relevant in this context?

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Excuse me but as a westerner CatholicSocialist knows a thing or two more about building communism than a hundred million Chinese communists in power, it's due to his superior skull shape.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What makes you think I'm not Asian?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't think most Asian-Americans hate the CCP (or CPC or whatever)?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm not telling you who or what I am.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago
[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago
[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's time to post hog.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (6 children)

More than enough of the world has seen my wenis. It's pretty clear that what the people really want, right now, is to see your dick.

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[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

What difference would that even make?

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also, you really thinking having "Chinese" before "Communist" is racist? If anything the west has fearmongered the word "communist" far more than the word "Chinese"

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That is literally the stated intent given for the name, yes. Emphasizing Chinese is the point. If there wasn't a reason to call it CCP they would just call it CPC. Goddamn you are a gullible toad lmao

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

I've wondered if part of it too is to trick boomers into confusing it with CCCP as their lead-addled brains turn into mush.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yes, older media reported the party as the CPC. restyling it as the CCP is relatively recent and coincides with the drumbeat of aggression between the west and China.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

It's worth noting that early on the official English name was actually CCP, probably just following the generic rules of English with putting adjectives before the noun, before it was revised to CPC.

[–] YuccaMan@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You clearly don't know a damn thing about socialism that you didn't learn from breadtube

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I've probably read way more theory than you libshit.

[–] YuccaMan@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd be willing to bet that you haven't. With the dumb shit you've been saying, I like my odds. You're living proof that leftist politics without historical education is nothing more than aesthetics and pedantry. You're impotent, and if you had your way the left would never advance. After all, if it did, you'd actually have to do something other than posturing and pointlessly arguing with people.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

After all, if it did, you’d actually have to do something other than posturing and pointlessly arguing with people.

Isn't that what you liberals do all day?

[–] Zoift@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Nah, we mostly post hogs. You should try it.

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[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

lol, what theory? 1984 and animal farm?

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[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So you want Xi to press the communism button?

On a serious note, through a communist party controlled state, Chinese workers clearly have greater control over the means of production than workers anywhere else in the world. That's why they were able to use the resources their own labor created to do things like have an effective covid response.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Chinese workers clearly have greater control over the means of production than workers anywhere else in the world

What makes you think this? Is that why their benefits and conditions are worse than succdem Europe?

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

China was profoundly underdeveloped, and only began to develop in earnest after a revolution in the 1940s. We'll never know why it's different than Europe. That's a really good question.