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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, i agree with you.

Just, tell me if i understand this correctly, please:

  • The part of cigarettes that makes you addicted is nicotine, and the psychological habit of "smoking one" as a social ritual.
  • However, nicotine is not really dangerous to your health. The smoke is what's damaging your lungs. Smoke contains half-burnt chemicals, that are acidic and corrosive, and that damages your lungs.
  • Vaping uses (water) vapor instead of smoke, and since vapor is not as acidic or corrosive, it's less dangerous for your health.
  • Vapes still make you addicted though, because they contain nicotine, and that's why you have to buy them over-and-over again, which means you still have the economic disadvantage of spending significant money on them.
[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

From what I understand your spot on except for the nicotine part. Nicotine on its own right from what I understand isn't all too terrible for you, however having nicotine in ur airways keep ur lungs and throat from expelling contaminants from lungs via the cilia (hairs that push contaminants out of airways). So by the very nature of vaping or smoking, the nicotine in ur airways stops ur airways from clearing out the crap that's bad for ur lungs (for example if u smoke weed and vape, the weed smoke that's bad for u can't get out and will cause more damage than if u didn't vape). This is why when u stop vaping or smoking, after a few days to a week you tend to have coughing fits. This is ur Celia finally getting back to business and pushing nasty shit out of ur lungs after being suppressed for so long. This discovery is also why I finally quit vaping, as I quit smoking cigs for a healthier life but I was not achieving what I wanted by replacing it with vaping. Yes it's better for you, but better is relative. It's still bad for you and there's no arguing that.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

That is my current understanding as well, except that I would add that cigarettes are so expensive because of sin taxes, not because they're inherently that expensive to produce. In NYC (admittedly a place with particularly high taxes on cigarettes) the total tax on a single pack is $7.86. Therefore I don't have a lot of sympathy for arguments that the government ought to discourage smoking specifically because it costs poor people a lot of money. (With that said, public health arguments for discouraging the burning of tobacco are valid.) My guess is that a nicotine habit doesn't have to be much more expensive than a caffeine habit.