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I work in a 4,000+ person company. Two years ago, the CEO created a dozen new positions underneath him. President. Chief of Marketing. Chief of Design. Chief of Product. Chief of Buildings. Etc.

Some of it was needed. Many were not. My boss, a director level person, would end up in a room with like 15 of these Chiefs-of-X, and hundreds of other directors. There was no heirarchy. You'd have a Chief of Product working with the Chief of Design and Chief of Marketing.

Many of them would just walk around, making demands to push their personal initiative, do 2-3 "update meetings" a day then go fuck around and collect their $500k salary

Late 2024, a lot of us found ourselves in "Office Space"-level BS where we'd have multiple bosses. I was reporting to two directors, and four Chiefs myself. Every week, I would get verbally chewed out by one, and praised by another - all different every time.

Last month, we got a memo that there was going to be some "restructuring" of departments. Then last week, half the Chiefs were quietly demoted to Dept Leads managing a small team, or fired. No other staff was fired except the C-levels.

I don't know what sparked it.

But I won't deny this seems like a path in the right direction.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I've seen "flattening" happening in other companies as well, particularly during downturns. Chopping the middle-management is a great way to cut the thicker parts of fat off your firm without costing you any immediate productivity. I would not be surprised if the owner saw a slowdown in revenue or got it into his head that he could sell the place to private equity and decided to clean up the balance sheet.

That said, I have been on the other side of this, as well. Going without any kind of management for months (at one stretch, nearly a year) at a time. Every couple of weeks, having to run around the business to wrangle more work. Writing my own performance reviews. Having no mentorship. Finding it difficult to ask time off work because who do I even submit that to? Suddenly finding myself in a meeting with a VP because a system latency problem got too much exposure and there was nobody between me and the C-levels.

Some amount of management - particularly skilled and experienced management - is an oft-underappreciated value add of working in a bigger and older company. I've gone through enough jobs where the middle management was shit, such that I do genuinely value it when I find it. Thankfully, my current manager is very experienced, easy to work with, well organized, and a valuable buffer with senior leadership to help manage expectations.

But it's a delicate balance. Plenty of firms don't know how to get it right.