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[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (21 children)

No one has said they have a working WMD, but that they are very close to one and that they cannot be allowed to have one because it would cause the same kind of stalemate that we have with Russia.

It’s sound logic my guy. Why are people defending the woman hating, gay killing, non democratic regime again?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 23 points 1 month ago (22 children)

that they cannot be allowed to have one because it would cause the same kind of stalemate that we have with Russia.

Because the West is such a force of good in the Middle East that someone being able to stand up to them is a bad thing?

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (8 children)

If that someone is a misogynist, homophobic, murderous regime of religious fanatics hellbent on making the world an even worse place, yes.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Progressive change from domestic conservatism can only happen from internal civil resistance, not bombing the fuck out the country to force a regime change

The US has plenty of domestic conservative policies, do you think the US should be bombed until they become progressive? No, obviously because that's completely insane and simply an after-the-fact justification for chauvinism.

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[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago
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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Because I don't want the woman hating, gay oppressing, non democratic regime with thousands of working WMDs that I live in to start another fucking war

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I agree and fucking hate the regime. Can't wait for them to live free.

But, Jon Stewart got through to me the other day with video clips of Netanyahu claiming the nukes were almost built over and over for 15 years. I'm anti war and and don't want another Iraq under false pretense. I would love for the people to get their democracy back without casualty.

I believe it's the reason the West is in Israel. And that it's probably only under control bc of that. But questioning the legitimacy of there being any urgency.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Absolutely NOBODY involved in this escalation gives one single fuck AT ALL about liberating the Iranian people. None. Nobody. Zilch. Zero. This is PURELY a capitalist venture to enrich assholes and fuel the power of radical fascists. There is ZERO benefit to ANYONE else. None. Zilch. Zero.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Does no one remember STUXNET? We've been sabotaging their efforts to create a nuke for a long time.

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[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I don't think this meme is defending the US.

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[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Whatever you think of the Iranian government, (they're not good, but also blame the US for helping put them there in the first place) there is only one country in history that has ever used nuclear weapons and they used it on civilian populations, twice. That same country has been invading one country or another for most of it's history, devastating civilians in the process all for the sake of greed. THAT is the country that is policing the world, deciding who's too "dangerous" to have what is apparently the only deterrent to it's routine aggression.

The only way to not recognize this for what it is is to have never stopped to think about the American exceptionalism propaganda you've been fed your entire life. We're not the good guys. Even if we want to see a better government in these countries, the US is more likely to impede that and install a different dictator than they are to usher in a proper democracy. See: Vietnam, Korea, most of Latin America, various post-soviet countries, various countries in the middle east, others that I'm probably not thinking of and.. oh right: IRAN!

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[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Why are people defending the woman hating, gay killing, non democratic regime again?

Strawman me harder daddy

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

HOW LONG have everyone who just happens to be anti-Iran been saying that they ALMOST have a nuke?

How many nukes does Israel have and QUITE illegally?

Iran SHOULD have a nuke as a deterrent against the most violent terrorist nation in the ME.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Because the current intelligence says they're not close to one. Unless a report came out that I missed?

[–] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Don't bother. This site seems to be about 50% propaganda accounts and 50% teenagers who have no understanding of geopolitics and are convinced that anyone against Israel are the good guys. Absolutely no understanding as to why it's desirable to prevent a North Korea situation in the middle east.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Wrong. Iran arent good guys; Israel is a psychotically violent terrorist nation bent on annihilation of all neighboring countries. How many countries has Israel attacked? Have many have Iran attacked? Who attacked first? Why is trump INISISTENT upon wae with Iran even though his own spies confirmed there was no nuke program in Iran? Why did he destroy the treaty we had with them the first term?

Perhaps you should consider that YOU are the simp.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's really hard to believe that so many people defend Hamas and Iran's government here. I'm convinced all of them are bots or just literal idiots.

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[–] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Alright grand dad, let's take you to bed.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

it would cause the same kind of stalemate that we have with Russia.

You mean Iran would "stalemate" the theft of land, the genocide of palestinians, etc.?

Yes, empire would hate that. They're gonna have to murder millions of innocent people again like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Chile, etcetcetcetc....

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The whole WMD situation is so shit. Iran cant have a stalemate to prevent attacks on them if they dont have nuclear weapons, so they would be attacked all the time to prevent them from having one. Yet their regime is also the one which is not a friendly to neighbors and has barely any friendly allies therefore it is in the best interests of the rest of the world that they won't get nuclear weapons. And again, preventing them from having it would allow Israel to bomb them freely.

Dunno how others see it, but no matter what side I try to look at this issue at, this is all looks bad and worse than the previous angle. Sad to acknowledge that Iranians have to go through this. Even if regime fails, I bet it'll take many decades for Iranians to become a free of regime state.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yet their regime is also the one which is not a friendly to neighbors and has barely any friendly allies therefore it is in the best interests of the rest of the world that they won’t get nuclear weapons.

I'm pretty sure the zio regime is least friendly to the people who are actually from the middle east. The zio regime is literally bombing Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen, etc. They have an overt plan to steal land from bascially every country. They're engaged in an active genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

It's definitely in the interest of humanity to disarm these nuclear terrorists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

I bet it’ll take many decades for Iranians to become a free of regime state.

How long until the middle east is free from the zio terror regime?

Gotta be delusional AF to think Iran is the problem here.

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