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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What exactly makes this more "open source" than DeepSeek? The linked page doesn't make that particularly clear.

DeepSeek doesn't release their training data (but they release a hell of a lot of other stuff), and I think that's about as "open" as these companies can get before they risk running afoul of copyright issues. Since you can't compile the model from scratch, it's not really open source. It's just freeware. But that's true for both models, as far as I can tell.

[–] NGnius@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup, this is open weights just like DeepSeek. Open source should mean their source data is also openly available, but we all know companies won't do that until they stop violating copyright to train these things.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I figured as much. Even this line...

M1's capabilities are top-tier among open-source models

... is right above a chart that calls it "open-weight".

I dislike the conflation of terms that the OSI has helped legitimize. Up until LLMs, nobody called binary blobs "open-source" just because they were compiled using open-source tooling. That would be ridiculous

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