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This was not inevitable. This is a war Israel chose. It could have been prevented. Diplomatic talks were ongoing when the bombers took off for Iran. Israel’s continuing, illegal, unjustified airstrikes are unlikely to achieve their stated aim – permanently ending Tehran’s presumed efforts to build nuclear weapons – and may accelerate it. They must stop now. Likewise, Iran must halt its retaliation immediately and drop its escalatory threats to attack US and UK bases.

This conflict is not limited, as was the case last year, to tit-for-tat exchanges and “precision strikes” on a narrow range of military targets. It’s reached a wholly different level. Potentially nothing is off the table. Civilians are being killed on both sides. Leaders are targets. The rhetoric is out of control. With Israel fighting on several fronts, and Iran’s battered regime backed against a wall, the Middle East is closer than ever to a disastrous conflagration.

Reasons can always be found to go to war. The roots of major conflicts often reach back decades – and this is true of the Israel-Iran vendetta, which dates to the 1979 Islamic revolution. The so-called “shadow war” between the two intensified in recent years. Yet all-out conflict had been avoided, until now. So who is principally to blame for this sudden, unprecedented explosion?

Answer: three angry old men whose behaviour raises serious doubts about their judgment, common sense, motives and even their sanity.

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[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 3 points 2 months ago (14 children)

No doubt Israel started this iteration but to say that Iran doesn't want war is viewing the regime too favourably. Of course they don't want war on Iranian territory - but they do want to directly sponsor Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, al-Assad (until he fell), and other mostly Shia militias while severely oppressing their own population - especially minorities. Fuck Israel but it's not like Iran comes with peaceful intentions. My parents fled from this regime, and while virtually no Iranian supports Israel's actions or wants war, most of us wouldn't shed a single tear if the entire regime were wiped out.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Did you forget that israel also backed the shah which was also oppressive and killed iranian? The west and it proxy israel always trying to control iranian natural ressources.

Iran provide weapons to resistance groups but do not control their actions. It's not different than the united state selling weapona to it's allies

Iran was forced to intervene in syria because the plan was always to put another regime that will protect israel and not because they love the butcher Assas butchring syrians

You can't claim to not support israel when they are the one right now trying to change the regime right now. How many iranians do you think should die for a regime change that will be replaced by a puppet not chosen by iranians?

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 1 points 2 months ago (8 children)

For me it's about being realistic. Iran is never gonna defeat Israel as long as the Americans support them. You're right that Iran will never flourish because the powers won't ever allow it - Israel, USA, Western Europe, Saudi Arabia, sometimes Turkey.. puppet or not, I'm not gonna support the devil I know just because I can't know what happens in the time after.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

You're supporting the devil right now.

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