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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 92 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It was inevitable. Long ago you had to know a lot about cars and engines to own a car. Now only enthusiasts know that kind of stuff.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Eh, there's a curiosity aspect as well. I can't do work on my car, but I can change the oil, tires, brake pads, and such. I understand the principle of how an IC engine works. I'm a computer programmer but I think it's because I'm a curious person who likes knowing how things work, and computers offer more chances to learn than anything else on the planet.

It isn't ignorance that has ever bothered me about boomers, zoomers, or anyone else. It's that 99% of people you meet are fundamentally incurious. They don't care how things work, they don't care if they could work differently.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

This so much, all the information in the world one click away online and most people just doom scroll nonsense. If money wasn't an issue I'd be a perpetual student, just learning things for the heck of it.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago

Great point, and well said.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Curiosity was always rare, and not always encouraged. We're the "make the same hand axes for hundreds of millennia" people, after all.

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me about that line in World War Z (Max Brooks)

(Paraphrasing) "Some survivors were frustrated with the assignments they were given. A lady who was a former TV exec was furious that she was assigned to a janitorial unit, led by someone who's lifetime salary she made in a month!

For people like her, you didn't have to worry about fixing a plumbing issue or cleaning your home. She just hired someone else to do it, because she made money talking on the phone, and the more people she hired, the more time she could spend talking on the phone. After the Great Panic, nobody bothered to use phones anymore. There were no TV contracts that needed to be made, but there were toilets that needed work, and floors to clean. In a strange way, the blue collar workers outranked their "superiors" in importance to the community. We needed mechanics, engineers, HVAC workers, plumbers. We had those people of course, but there was never enough of them."

[–] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Reminds me of the story of Golgafrincham from the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy books:

The planet Golgafrincham creatively solved the problem of middle managers: it blasted them in to space.

Golgafrinchan Telephone Sanitisers, Management Consultants and Marketing executives were persuaded that the planet was under threat from an enormous mutant star goat. The useless third of their population was then packed in Ark spaceships and sent to an insignificant planet.

That planet turned out to be Earth.

[–] MelodiousFunk@startrek.website 6 points 6 months ago

And it was a good plan, for a while. Shame about that plague, though.

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they all perish shortly thereafter from a disease spread via unsanitary telephones?

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

on the other hand there's bikes, which are basically unchanged and simple enough that most people can figure out how to do all the regular maintenance with some youtube videos and a couple hours.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Have you encountered modern shifters? They're fairly involved.

Electronic shifting, hydraulic brakes, liberal use of sealed cartridge bearings, carbon fiber parts requiring strict torque specs...these are definitely different than 70's friction shift ten-speed bikes.

[–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 6 months ago

You're thinking of high performance sports bicycles.
When bicycles are just basic transport to get around town, where reliability and easy maintenance are a priority, they are very much like they were in the 70's.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

i have never seen those on a bicycle actually used in real life, it's either regular-ass derailleur or it's hub gears, both of which are pretty darn simple on the level you're going to interact with them (no one disassembles internal hubs and they don't really break)