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[–] MBM@lemmings.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Positive integers are (a subset of) natural numbers

[–] ewenak@jlai.lu 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why a subset? They're the same thing right? I guess it could be about the zero?

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you answered your own question

[–] ewenak@jlai.lu 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well what I learned in school was that zero was both positive and negative. I knew some people consider the natural numbers don't include zero, but I didn't know for some zero isn't even positive.

[–] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

it is neither positive nor negative

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I knew a physicist who considered 0 negative if she arrived at 0 coming from negative source numbers and positive if coming from positive sources.

Something something sampling rate

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 2 points 2 months ago

Some places (like France) talk about positive and strictly positive, others (like England) about non-negative and positive

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Identical sets are considered subsets of each other.

[–] ewenak@jlai.lu 1 points 2 months ago

True

But I don't think they would have said "a subset of" if the sets were identical.