@FiftyFiftyOne If they came here and are living here without going through the proper vetting and going through the process to become a citizen then they are breaking the law. It is the job of ICE to find and return such people to the nation of their origin, or if they continue to break the law by returning illegally after being exported back to their home country, then they go to prison. US Citizens are entitled to due process, this is not true of non-citizens. Even so they are afforded some level of process just perhaps not the level that politicians in libtard states would prefer so they can keep their illegal constituents.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Everyone inside the borders is entitled to due process.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Funny, I don't see the word citizen anywhere in there. If the government can declare a group does not have rights, then they can declare you a part of that group at any time. Our founders understood this.

Also ICE is currently arresting people at their USCIS appointments, where they're trying to do it the right way.

So with all due respect, fuck off with this shit take.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

How do I know you're a US citizen? I should report you to the FBI, because I think you might be trying too hard to hide that you're not. ICE should come arrest you, question you, and detain you however long they feel like without any due process just in case you're not one.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

US Citizens are entitled to due process, this is not true of non-citizens.

*Proceeds to deport someone without process because they aren't a citizen, a fact that did not need to be asserted through due process because they if they aren't a citizen they do not have the right to due process.