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I know this is going to be unpopular with some, but I am seriously considering a Mac and I am annoyed by the idea of it.

I NEED MacOS or Windows for my work. There is one application that does not work in Linux yet and there are no alternatives. It is a critical work application.

With that being said, you can probably guess that Linux is my preferred OS of choice.

I am currently using a Windows desktop for my work, but I do run into situations where I need a laptop. The laptop I am using now is a Thinkpad from 2021 with Fedora. I actually really love this computer. My only real complain is that the webcam is pretty garbage.

So, I think I need a new computer. My choices are Windows laptops which have decent pricing with good specs, or Apple which is extremely expensive for what you get.

I'm really annoyed with Windows' ads, bloat, and general lack of privacy; specifically Recall. On the other hand, it is hard to justify spending an extra $400 on a Macbook air just to get a 1tb hard drive. My work files alone take up a little more than 200gb.

I guess this is just a rant. I'm not looking for any solutions as what I am really looking is the ability to use Linux for my work which is not an option at the moment.

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[–] natecox@programming.dev 62 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I went from Linux to a Mac for work years ago. Install home brew on day one and the experience overall will be much better.

The terminal on the Mac is surprisingly good. I felt right at home with it very quickly. Xcode comes with cli tooling to build software without a lot of messing with it and finding library dlls (looking at you, windows)

The window placement philosophy takes some getting used to (see yabai for a viable tiling window solution though) and the key modifiers will frustrate you (though I eventually ended up liking cmd a lot).

Overall though I feel like Mac gets a lot of hate where it’s not deserved. I still hate their business model, and my personal laptop is Linux for that reason, but the product itself is fine.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I use Nix on my M1 Pro machine, and it’s by far my favorite laptop yet. The company and their business practices absolutely do suck though.

That said, there is certainly a middle ground for software there. I hate windows as much as the next guy, but macOS is at least Unix-adjacent, so it’s not a complete pain

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

BTW, I'm not OP, but just interested, about the general feel of the UI and solutions - how much of the 3d\blur\other effects can be turned off? Same with choosing a purely monochrome color scheme. These cause nausea for me every time I even look at MacOS screenshots.

And another question, about window management and solutions to that and the desktop and dock and launcher, - how simplified can that be? In addition to nausea, have anxiety from most things there, and every time touching a Mac wasn't pleasant. Can one have a keyboard-controlled environment without rounded corners, without animations, without scrolled screens with icons to launch something? And how well can one hide the functionality of virtual desktop overview or whatever that is, to just forget it was there?

Suppose my ideal of tranquility would be a DOS prompt, gray on black. How close can one get to that?

Hypothetically.

You can reduce animations and transparency, enhance contrast (though not every application supports it) and turn everything grayscale but you can’t change the overall style and layout of the OS.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To get a DOS prompt, you either install MS-DOS on a VM, or on a vintage PC.

Or just make the Mac boot directly into the command line as Single User. CMD+S on startup.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't mean that. I mean using a PC normally, but with a level of UI appearance adequacy approaching that of a DOS prompt.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can customize the Terminal app.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, I meant reduce distractions in the UI. Using all the same applications with native look. And reduce epilepsy-inducing elements in that native look.

I meant normal use.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Maybe just stick with Linux.

You can turn off a lot of the transparency and other effects in System Preferences under accessibility. Setting the traffic light window buttons to greyscale is done in appearance I think.

I always enable “reduce transparency” and “always show scroll bars” for a saner default. There’s a bunch of other settings there that are sensible as well

Keyboard navigation for windows and menus is turned off by default. So turn it on for a more efficient experience.

[–] coreray00@discuss.online 1 points 2 months ago

I like aerospace for a tiling windows manager, but I never checked out yabai

[–] that_leaflet@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately Homebrew isn't good for casks, aka GUI apps. It can install them initially, but after that most casks need to be updated from inside the app itself. You can force Homebrew to update casks, but it's not recommended and could break the app. I did that with Chromium (which doesn't have an auto updater) and it messed up the keyring for some reason.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago

Well, that sucks that you’ve had problems, but it doesn’t match up with my experience of using homebrew over the last decade. I can’t think of a time outside that one time they changed the install paths where homebrew has caused an issue.