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In its submission to the Australian government’s review of the regulatory framework around AI, Google said that copyright law should be altered to allow for generative AI systems to scrape the internet.

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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 58 points 2 years ago (66 children)

Copyright law already allows generative AI systems to scrape the internet. You need to change the law to forbid something, it isn't forbidden by default. Currently, if something is published publicly then it can be read and learned from by anyone (or anything) that can see it. Copyright law only prevents making copies of it, which a large language model does not do when trained on it.

[–] lostmypasswordanew@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago (52 children)

An AI model is a derivative work of its training data and thus a copyright violation if the training data is copyrighted.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Derivative works are only copyright violations when they replicate substantial portions of the original without changes.

The entirety of human civilization is derivative works. Derivative works aren't infringement.

[–] lostmypasswordanew@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

It absolutely is. There's nothing out there in the past thousand years that isn't based on other prior art, copyright law only replies to direct copies, and there are explicit cutouts past that that allow you to directly copy some things if your work is transformative.

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