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[–] tusker@monero.town 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This has not worked. It is time for a solution on the protocol level to handicap giant irresponsible pools in some way.

[–] k4r4b3y@karapara.net 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Okay. Walk me through this. How do you enforce the use of p2pool on the protocol level? How would you even distinguish a pool operation against a solo mining operation?

Wownero tried to eliminate the pool mining. But they enforced solo mining on the protocol level.

So, how would one enforce p2pool mining on the protocol level?

[–] tusker@monero.town 0 points 2 years ago

Someone would have to get pretty creative. I do not think enforcing p2pool is possible, besides we do not want to kill pool mining all together, but making running a giant pool very inefficient may be the way to go.

Mining protocol changes to combat pool centralization - https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/98

[–] Gargari@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just found out about wownero (memecoin), they better put that effort to improve monero :/

[–] monerobull@monero.town 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not wasted effort, it is basically like a testnet for Monero where bleeding edge and novel tech can be tested without much impact in case of failure.

[–] Gargari@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

If that's in the case, amazing!

[–] crab@monero.town 0 points 2 years ago

adding p2pool block hash and something signed by private spend key to the block requirements should accomplish this? whether or not its a good idea is another thing

[–] IP2@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It has not worked yet. P2ppool is steadily growing still, new miners have no reason to join a pool. Big system administrators will keep flexing on pools every now and then I guess, botnets too. I don't see us worrying once p2pool gets top 3 or thereabouts.

[–] tusker@monero.town 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, I am happy we have p2pool as a go to option for decentralized pool mining. Maybe once the big pools start to enforce KYC we will see a real move to p2pool.

[–] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pools have kyc?

Thanks for ruining my day

[–] tusker@monero.town 2 points 2 years ago

Yup, it is a cancer which has started to spread. The bankers want a cut of all human activity, as well as the ability to use violence against you when they wish via the state mafia.

ANTPOOL Institutional KYC User Guide https://support.antpool.com/hc/en-us/articles/17470281316377-ANTPOOL-Institutional-KYC-User-Guide

[–] Gargari@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think OP knows how mining work