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Please don't let this turn into an anti-feminist, misogynistic, right-wing, tribal community (kbin.social)

submitted 2 years ago by elouboub@kbin.social to c/men@kbin.social

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You will be no better than the people you'll fight against. I've seen it happen on every pro-men subreddit, and if this place isn't aggressively moderated to dispel hopelessness, negativity, and prejudice, it'll just turn into hate.

Incel, mens-rights activist, red-pill, black-pill, MGTOW, etc. don't let the haters join otherwise this community will end up just like the aforementioned.

Egalitarian from a male perspective is what we should be, not pro-male (I say male because of sex and gender).

Be excellent to each other.

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[–] elouboub@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Does that mean that the men's movement has to be misogynist?

[–] a-man-from-earth@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

No, the men's movement doesn't have to be misogynist, and in essence it isn't. Except for some bad apples.

The feminist movement also doesn't have to be misandrist, but it has always been that. With some positive exceptions.

Just look at the 1848 Declaration of Sentiments, one of the founding documents of the movement, which blames men in general and demonizes them as tyrannical oppressors. The misandry starts right there.

In contrast, the men's movement has always promoted equality.

[–] elouboub@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The feminist movement also doesn't have to be misandrist, but it has always been that. With some positive exceptions.

I disagree and think that's a biased view. Women are just human, like men, and fall prey to the same problem of "bad apples". To date, I have only met one brainwashed feminist, a few engaged feminists, and way more passive feminists. The same applies to men. Online though... it's very much the opposite.

In contrast, the men's movement has always promoted equality.

That's only the benefit of time. Back in 1848 things were very very different. There are probably very few movements started by the disenfranchised back then that could have even started in a civil manner.

[–] a-man-from-earth@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Women are just human, like men,

Yes, most certainly. But I wasn't talking about women. I was talking about an ideological movement. Don't confuse women as a gender with feminism as an ideological movement. Feminists often pretend to speak for all women, but that's not how this works.

That's only the benefit of time. Back in 1848 things were very very different.

No, not really. Feminism may have refined their theories and reworded their ideas, but they still blame men in general for society's woes. It's just misandry repackaged.

See for example this very even-handed article by Cathy Young: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/30/feminists-treat-men-badly-its-bad-for-feminism/

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