Soulslike - Discussion, News, Memes
This is a community for discussion, news, and memes pertaining to the video game sub-genre "soulslike".
Given Lemmy's size, the definition of soulslike may be treated relatively loosely. While games like the numerous FromSoft titles, the recent Star Wars Jedi games, Lies of P, Nioh and similar games should be the focus, games that incorporate soulslike elements - like Hollow Knight and Blasphemous, for example - may also be discussed here.
Basic Lemmy-quette applies. Additionally, since flairs don't exist yet, please do make sure to include a marker to denote what game your post is about in square brackets for clarity's sake. An example could be:
[BB] This enemy is so difficult!
or
[DS1] Anyone struggling with the gargoyles?
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What's the issue with DS2? I haven't played a souls-like but all the arguments I see are as basic as "it's different!". It reminds me of the hate for mgs2. That game fucking ruled and I played them all in order including the msx ones.
Because its movement dead zones look like this:
And its dodge roll frames look like this:
While being less finished than the already jank and unfinished DS1. Also not taking the series in a new direction aesthetically or thematically while having a way less interesting world design than DS1 (which is something that people loved about DS1, there are 3 hour long videos analyzing DS1's map).
Somebody is gonna reply to this comment with a bunch of stuff they liked from DS2. That's great and I'm glad a lot of the cool stuff from DS2 ended up in Elden Ring, but they asked for the reasons people didn't like DS2. Those are the reasons. Somehow people think that a game having a cool thing in it means that any shitty things in it get canceled out and it should be illegal for you to talk about it. Or vice versa.
As someone who played DS2 before DS1, I didn't notice any of the problems you listed. I did notice that DS1 only lets you roll in 4 directions when locked on, though. I think DS1 veterans are most likely the biggest haters of DS2.
Edit: not to say the criticisms aren't valid for long-time players, but noobs like me seem less impacted