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And this is why I'm not bothered by Amazon taking it over.
James Bond has always been bizarre with tone. Each Bond is different. As long as they're not as Bourne-y as Craig's then I'll be fine. But them stealing bonds quips and gadgets and women... The fuck? You made British Jason Bourne with more trauma and less of an ability to cope with it.
Yeah. The Venn diagram of good Bond has a bit of Austin Powers and Inspector Gadget overlap, not Bourne.
What do you get if you overlap the other three? deadpool maybe
The opening of casino royal is about as borne as it should get.
Craig has actually said that the serious tone was a reaction to Austin Powers existing. It was too on the nose.
Which is just cowardice
Moonraker.
Your argument is invalid.
Being shit is sort of part of Bond tradition
Edit: This comment was meant to be jokey but re-reading it, that tone isn't really achieved.
My point was just that Bond movies have a series of being all over the place. I mean we have gotten a lot of insane bullshit in the past. And while the original movies were more 'serious', they also had way more camp and fun than the Craig ones do. I love the Craig ones for what they are but they're a very gritty take on Bond. I just hope it doesn't become the default.
And there are plenty of Bond movies that are empty. Tomorrow Never Dies is the first example that comes screaming into mind.
I just think you're all getting insanely defeatist about something that hasn't occured yet.
I rewatched them all when Amazon added them a few years back.
There are precious few good Bond films. A lot of them are quite generic, and the later Brosnan movies especially bad. The appearance of Madonna in anything is never a good sign.
What's most surprising is that there was nearly as big a gap between Spectre and No Time To Die as the entire Brosnan era.
I love the Brosnan movies but they're not particularly good. Was just my entry point to Bond and I want to fuck the shit out of the man so that helps. Roger Moore though... my favorite. And both of those Bonds made some of the worst Bond movies but they also had the suave down for me like no one else did.
I do have a fondness for the Moore era.
Growing up in the 80s, he was my generation's Bond, and every bank holiday or Boxing Day movie was nearly always one of his.
The zoom to the scarecrow in Live and Let Die scared the crap out of me as a kid though.
Rewatching, they're mostly objectively bad. I do have respect for him leaving the role, because being paired with women young enough to be his granddaughter was making him feel icky.