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[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Did they train something on an actors voice, or use the actors voice recordings without contractual permission?

OR:

Did they use an AI voice and some filters to make the character talk without hiring an actor?

Because if it's the second, who cares? If it's the first, they should be raked over the coals.

[–] SaucySnake@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They had permission to use an AI trained on James Earl Jones's Darth Vader voice granted by his estate, SAG is pissed they used it instead of hiring someone to imitate it.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

If JEJ granted voice rights, then that's peachy. Nobody owes someone else that job. Sounds like JEJ locked it down.

The idea that actors are required to be hired is kind of nonsense. Every industry has had to deal with less people required to produce the same amount of output. At this point, JEJ voice of Darth Vader IS Darth Vader. I can understand the studio wanting to retain that. Replacing voice actors is often jarring for the viewer.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago

The idea that actors are required to be hired is kind of nonsense.

They aren't required to hire actors, but in this case they had a contractual agreement with the union to negotiate before doing this.

Also, the logical conclusion to this trend is to do away with all actors since sooner or later, AI will just be able to create characters out of thin air and then why pay anybody? I'd personally rather there be some restrictions on it.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

JEJ is dead, dude. His estate cut a deal with epic.

[–] CrayonDevourer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As is their right. His estate, or him personally, doesn't matter.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I hope his estate gets kickbacks from his likeness being used.

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