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More than half of Americans reported receiving at least one scam call per day in 2024. To combat the rise of sophisticated conversational scams that deceive victims over the course of a phone call, we introduced Scam Detection late last year to U.S.-based English-speaking Phone by Google public beta users on Pixel phones.

We use AI models processed on-device to analyze conversations in real-time and warn users of potential scams. If a caller, for example, tries to get you to provide payment via gift cards to complete a delivery, Scam Detection will alert you through audio and haptic notifications and display a warning on your phone that the call may be a scam.

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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nice, wholesale illegal wire tapping. It's OK, it's legal because it's AI and Google is totally not storing any recordings. They say this is all on-device, but that's an "oops" or equivalent from them hoovering up recordings of every phone call you use one of their ~~surveillance endpoints~~ phones on.

heavy /s

[–] grue@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

What do you mean, "illegal?" If the phone user consents to turning it on, that makes it legal.

I hate to defend Google, but I will absolutely defend single-party consent for recording. Don't like it? Don't fucking call me in the first place. It absolutely grinds my gears when shitty software (including from Google) plays an obnoxious warning message when I want to record a call, even though I have the right to do so without warning.

[–] gopher@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In many places call recording (or indeed processing of personal information which is highly likely to be present in phone calls) requires consent to be legal. I highly doubt this kind of processing is legal in the EU without both parties consenting.

[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As is stated, the call is processed locally in the user's device. If that holds true, there is no recording and no third party processing going on. Your point does not make sense.

[–] gopher@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The person owning the phone where the processing takes place, is the processor of the data in this case. That still requires consent from the data subject per gdpr.

[–] Lichtblitz@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, that's ridiculous.

This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data: [...] (c) by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity;

[–] gopher@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

Fair, I was not aware of that exception. It does seem to cover this case, assuming Google is actually not sending any data outside of the phone, use it for further training etc.

[–] ouch@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I highly doubt this kind of processing is legal in the EU without both parties consenting.

In Finland recording calls and meetings you participate in is legal, without need to give notice or ask for consent. And necessary, because spoken contracts are as valid as written ones, and you need to be able to prove the existence of such contract.

I haven't heard of any EU countries where call recording would not be legal. Would be interesting to hear from people who live in EU.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I read that it's "opt out" not "opt in".

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago

You need to opt in to the public beta. Once it's out of beta... Who knows!

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It sounds illegal because if one user opt ins for wire tapping, she / he needs to inform other people on the line about it is being wire tapped.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Read the article at all. It's on device processing nothing gets sent anywhere.

[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

They say so. They always say so :-)