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DNC Moves to Oust David Hogg After He Says Party Isn’t Standing Up to Trump (truthout.org)

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The DNC cited a procedural concern, but Hogg said it is “impossible to ignore the broader context” of his criticisms.

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[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (71 children)

So where, pray tell, do the progressive votes go?

Primary them sure. Try and snag it back. But you won't turn your next vote red. You know that. And they know that. And I sure as fuck won't do it either. The DNC can rot. But...

You can and should blame the two party system sure. But if you don't primary and win. Well. We've seen that before again and again.

I'm a progressive that will vote blue again. Reluctantly. Emphatically so. But I will.

The posturing of principals means nothing in our political reality. And it pisses me off. But reality doesn't care about your feelings.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 3 months ago (23 children)

But reality doesn't care about your feelings.

Yeah so... uh... That kinda goes both ways. I've made this argument before so I'm just gonna copy paste it, but lemme just...

Have you ever heard of gambler's ruin? It's the name of a few different results in statistics, but the one we want is this:

In statistics, gambler's ruin is the fact that a gambler playing a game with negative expected value will eventually go bankrupt, regardless of their betting system.

Now in modern US elections, does your bet have a positive or negative expected value for democracy? Is America becoming more or less of a democracy every election on average? Apply the theorem above to your answer and see what you get.

To change the inevitable result, which is fascism in the United States, you have to change the game in some way, and primarying incumbents and voting blue no matter who is what progressives are already doing.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

This exactly. I have voted for every progressive candidate that has come up on the ballot. And yet every single time the middle of the road Democrat wins. Because that's where the DNC puts the money. And in the general I always vote for whatever Democrat has won the primary. And quite frankly I always feel sick that I voted for somebody that I wouldn't vote for if I had a better choice.

So I think I'm going to choose not to vote in the general if the progressive I vote for doesn't win. I'm tired of a democratic party that is more interested in protecting their position than actually doing their job.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And yet every single time the middle of the road Democrat wins.

It couldn't be that the middle of the road Democrat is simply popular among the majority of the voting population? Nah couldn't be. Everybody in my family loves when I rant about the benefits of communism at Thanksgiving.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

That's funny.

You know what's funnier, and not in a ha ha funny way. The way I bring up progressive candidates to people and they have no idea who it is. It's not about popularity. It's about how the media, that is controlled by both parties, only seems to report on the chosen few.

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