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We really need to reign in our enthusiasm for stealing shit. It's (outdoor) catnip for opportunists and you wind up overthinking questions like "is $1300 the threshold for declaring someone a class enemy?"
Theft from the right people for the right reasons is worth defending, but it's something that's generally bad where there are sometimes excuses, not something that is generally good. Every society I'm aware of (certainly every modern society) views stealing as bad, they just define what one can legitimately own in different ways. Ordinary peolple are just not going to come around to "steal whatever for whatever reason, hell yeah," but you see that attitude pop up on the left somewhat frequently. It's not a good spot for scorching hot takes.
Except we should always support the stealing from (insured anyway) businesses. I don’t really feel any concern if a rich person gets a small amount of their stuff (that they can easily replace anyway) stolen.
In your ideal leftist society, would stealing be legal? Of course not -- nor has it been legal in any AES state. Generally speaking, it's bad. The vast majority of people think so now and will continue to think so even if there's a significant leftward shift in society.
Our default response to stealing, then, shouldn't be "hell yeah." People don't like getting ripped off and stealing isn't socialism. It's fine to cheer stealing from the right people for the right reasons, but that's not everything.
This isn’t a socialist society. This bike isn’t being stolen in a socialist society that provides for them. This is stealing from a rich bastard in a capitalist society. Those are two totally different things. What AES states do isn’t relevant as this isn’t occurring in an AES state