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The Catholic Church has issued a warning to its clergy in Washington state: Any priest who complies with a new law requiring the reporting of child abuse confessions to authorities will be excommunicated.

https://www.newsweek.com/catholic-church-excommunicate-priests-following-new-us-state-law-2069039

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Mixed feelings

Obviously the clergy have absolute values which they believe come from god, so obviously they're not equipped to make exceptions such as this as individuals. You would have to appeal the to pope and cardinals directly to change the rules.

How does the state intend to enforce this? Is there a priest registry in washington state, and does it account for all recognized religions for tax purposes? Are they going to take away peoples license to preach?

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

During the investigation of child sexual abuse, if the perpetrator is a Catholic, they'll ask if the abuser confessed. If so, the priest is liable to be prosecuted.

Honestly, my biggest problem with the law is how unlikely it is to ever be prosecuted. Proving that an abuser confessed would be impossible. They are infringing on the First Amendment and ensuring that no abuser ever talks to their priest, but in practice priests probably won't follow the law and if they don't the state is unlikely to actually enforce the law.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If they only ask Catholics that sounds like it also infringes freedom of religion first amendment rights. They either have to ask every perp which church/temple/mosque/etc they go to and if they ever told a clergy member or none of the perps.

[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Aiding child abuse isnt a first amendment right. You are only allowed freedom to practice religion and the government can't force you to practice anything else. Confession isn't protected by this.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 3 points 11 months ago

This is wildly outside of the mainstream interpretation of the first amendment. Whether the law would be upheld by the court is basically a toss up.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If the law specifically targeted Catholics then that denomination would not have equal rights to religion. However, I went and looked up the definition just to put the issue to rest:

(18) "Member of the clergy" means any regularly licensed,27 accredited, or ordained minister, priest, rabbi, imam, elder, or28 similarly situated religious or spiritual leader of any church,29 religious denomination, religious body, spiritual community, or sect,30 or person performing official duties that are recognized as the31 duties of a member of the clergy under the discipline, tenets,32 doctrine, or custom of the person's church, religious denomination,33 religious body, spiritual community, or sect, whether acting in an34 individual capacity or as an employee, agent, or official of any35 public or private organization or institution.

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