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So, all. Obviously. Why should there be any protection for admitting your crimes because a special club you're part of has a tradition of keeping secrets?
Same reason there is protection if you admit crimes to your lawyer and sometimes to your spouse. It's a matter of privacy. It isn't just some special club, any faith that establishes a rite similar to confession should be able to use a similar protective mechanism within certain limits to enable discussion about sensitive and possibly criminal issues.
To be fair, the issue isn't so much the person admitting things being protected by being part of the church, but if a third party not associated with law enforcement can be compelled to say to said law enforcement about the things said to them. Honestly I think I get the arguments on both sides of this one, it's not great to legally compel people to say things, especially when saying those things is directly in violation of their sense of ethics, and it's also not great to just not do anything when made aware of something like child abuse. I think that a law like this is unlikely to help much though: if the church caves, then it seems unlikely that people would be willing to admit to these things anymore anyway, at least to priests, and if they don't, these guys seem to believe that the consequences of following the law are worse than breaking it, and so it seems unlikely to do much more than occasionally send a priest to jail when it can be proven that they were told of something and didn't report it.
Are you aware of how the mandatory reporting laws came into being? It is absolutely fucked up beyond belief. Anyone who doesn't report these sorts of crimes has no ethics.
It's not really true that they have no ethics though, if it was, it'd be a simpler problem, because they'd presumably just care about reducing unpleasant consequences to themselves and as such a legal deterrent should be effective. The issue is that they have different ethics, which are misaligned with everyone else's and so result in conflict when they stubbornly refuse to do something that everyone else perceives as a no-brainer. It isn't like the church gets some material gain out of keeping confession secret.
You can run but you can't hide.