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On any of the donation threads where it came up and he replied to it, the most he ever did was some half hearted corporate PR "apology" (ironic)
Just want to say that a large amount of users on lemmygrad and hexbear have complained about this. This post was even added to the slop community on hexbear because, believe it or not, hexbear does care about transphobia. He was called out 8-9 months ago too. As far as I know he is banned from hexbear, but I might be mistaken.
Most ML parties in the US I've interacted with have been pro trans. CPUSA, PSL, FRSO, APL, (to name a few) are all supportive of trans people.
Y'all are free to criticize tankies to your hearts content, but Nutomics views on this topic do not represent the views of most of the tankies you've interacted with on lemmy.
You don’t get to say you care about transphobia, then support multiple nations that persecute LGBT+ people.
Hexbear doesn’t give a shit about transphobia unless pointing it out suits whatever thread they’re brigading.
I mean does that also go for supporters of the US and UK? You can support a country without supporting every action they ever took.
Pretty much all leftists I’ve spoken to rightfully calls out the problems AES countries have had with LGBT+ people historically.
There were Germans who said the same thing about the Reich. Just so that I understand your argument, you’re saying it’s fine for them to have supported the Reich as long as they didn’t support every action they took? What about the dev of Lemmy being a transphobe. Is it ok to support them, even though they don’t support trans rights?
I’m just wondering how far you’re willing to compromise on your morals.
I don't think that logic really works out, considering you're using Lemmy, and he's a dev.
Where did that come from?
I don’t support the Nutomic being transphobic and would hope they’re removed.
My argument was that the US and UK also have terrible views on LGBT+ people does your argument also extend to anyone that says they support those countries? Is anyone that supports those countries also not a supporter of trans people?
If you support the US government, then no, you absolutely do not support trans people. The president literally wants to get rid of them all. How is that even a question? The UK just ruled that trans people don’t exist.
But western governments being shitty has nothing to do with the actions of other governments, such as Russia or China. You don’t get to point at the US, and absolve anyone else of the responsibility of their own actions.
My point wasn’t that it absolves anything.
The point I was trying to make is that just because someone makes a point of supporting certain actions a country does (reduction of inequality, public ownership of resources, etc) doesn’t mean they’re endorsing every policy that country has. Especially when they’ve clearly been critical of the stance that country has taken on that issue.
You can't pick and choose here, my dude. It doesn't matter one fuck if you don't endorse the way they treat trans people, you're still supporting someone who persecutes trans people. It's all or fucking nothing when it comes to human rights. Either you support trans people, or you persecute them.
THERE IS NO FUCKING MIDDLE GROUND OR NUANCED STANCE ON THIS.
It's illegal to discriminate against trans people in America, jury nullification aside. It's more of a UK thing these days.