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[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 79 points 3 months ago (14 children)

This comic seems to imply that the outcome of climate change will be dependent on individuals' choice of personal vehicle, and not on the cars themselves or the systems that keep people reliant on them. EVs will not save us from climate change. They are an attempt to prolong the life of the auto industry as we move into a future that must move past motornormativity.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I did a quick googling to get some numbers, and it looks like in 2022, 28% of US emissions were from transportation. Another 25% was from electricity generation. Fix those two things alone and you've more than cut your emissions in half.

Getting people to switch to electric cars will go a long way towards slowing down/stopping climate change, and is actually doable. In North America, getting everyone to change their lifestyles, redesigning city layouts, and actually building the public transportation to support it is a process that will take generations to complete. We don't have that kind of time. Better to get people into electric cars now, while we work towards the long term goal of not needing them.

[–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

An EV still produces about 30% of the lifetime CO2 emissions of an equivalent ICE, assuming a 100% clean grid [1]. So unless we change the systems that are putting more and more cars on the road, and increasing vehicle miles traveled each year, emissions will continue to rise.

Cars only really became available to the public in the 20s or 30s. I bet your city was overrun by cars by the 50s. Cities drastically changed over just a few decades. Why should it take significantly longer to go in the reverse direction? Other than a lack of political will.

edit: I'm not against EVs overall. I know there will always be a need for cars/trucks to some extent, and I think they should all be EVs. But don't let that be a distraction from actual meaningful climate action.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 months ago

Cities should be carless (only renting cars should be allowed), rural areas should be EVs only, and only if you have photovoltaics on your roof.

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