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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Actually, I'm more surprised people continue to believe the 'end to end' claims of these companies.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 87 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Signal makes it believable by providing source code and reproducible builds. It doesn't rule out the possibility that they've done something clever with the random number generator, or have the app store you use give you a compromised app, or provide any protection against endpoint compromise, but it's about as good as you can get.

Third party apps derived from theirs, which explicitly promise to log all your messages to a server somewhere, like TeleMessage, are, for obvious reasons, far less trustworthy.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Question: how can they even claim it’s e2ee if they also claim to log all the messages? Or is the claim that they log the messages in encrypted form? In which case any client(s) with the only copy of the keys could delete them, making the logs useless.

[–] tamman2000@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't know how they claim that would work. But it's important to note that only telemessage makes that claim, not signal.

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