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Image is of coup supporters in Niamey, waving the flag of Niger and Russia.


While the coup in Niger is an obvious reason for this megathread's subject, the inspiration to focus here rather than somewhere else in the world this week came from @solaranus@hexbear.net's comment here.

Anyway, as a quick introduction to Niger - the country won independence from the French in 1960 and has since been in an alternating cycle of military governments and more democratic arrangements. In 2010, a junta took over the country from the military junta already ruling it, and then successfully transitioned the country to democracy within a year. President Issoufou was elected and then re-elected in 2016. President Bazoum was democratically elected in 2021, and has just been overthrown last week. General Tchiani looks to be the new head of state.

Like many countries that were previously colonies, outright colonialism by its imperial country has been replaced by neocolonialism by that same country. France issues their currency, thus allowing France to do what the US does with its dollar around the world but in miniature. The country is incredibly poor, surviving on subsidence agriculture, with much of its exports being minerals like gold and uranium, which many children under the age of 14 are employed in extracting. Also like other previously French colonies, the new guys in charge appear to be flipping them the bird, with Burkina Faso and Mali relatively recently asking them to fuck off. It is unlikely to be a coincidence that this is happening as internal dissent inside France itself continues to boil. Given the Russian flags being waved and Putin's promises to supply free grain to some African countries (and though Niger isn't mentioned, Burkina Faso and Mali notably are), one imagines that Russia also might have a hand in things.

Burkina Faso's president, Traore, has been talking with Mali and Guinea, and now Niger - all ruled by military governments - and asking if they're interested in federation, with Mali showing some interest. Traore follows in the tradition of Thomas Sankara, and has appointed a Prime Minister who is similarly aligned. Traore has recently met with a Chinese representative and has firmly aligned himself with Russia, saying that Burkina Faso has "one and the same outlook" on building a new world order, saying:

"Russia made great sacrifices to liberate Europe and the world from Nazism during World War II. We have the same history,"

"We are the forgotten peoples of the world. And we are here now to talk about the future of our countries, about how things will be tomorrow in the world that we are seeking to build, and in which there will be no interference in our internal affairs,"

"However, a slave who does not fight [for his freedom] is not worthy of any indulgence. The heads of African states should not behave like puppets in the hands of the imperialists. We must ensure that our countries are self-sufficient, including as regards food supplies, and can meet all of the needs of our peoples. Glory and respect to our peoples; victory to our peoples! Homeland or death!"


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

No update on Wednesday because I am still busy.

Friday's update is here in the comments.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I saw someone posted this interview with Michael Hudson in this thread but is now deleted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSBvXCwUQYQ this is part 2 which is quite spicy especially towards the end).

God damn are these podcast hosts grad-school-brained losers. "Is there a good billionaire out there who can do good things?" "What if a company bought back stock and gave it to employees?" - Questions by the utterly deranged.

Edit: I found the transcript: https://michael-hudson.com/2023/07/global-economic-history-in-2-5-hours/

some highlights

Anastasia Bendebury

Okay. So, let’s say a corporation decided to do a long-term stock buyback. And what they did is instead of destroying the shares, they would then distribute them to the employees exclusively. So, you can take a public company…

Michael Hudson [Exasperated]

You don’t need to buy them back; you can just give it to them. I see you’re saying, that’s so utopian, I don’t even want to get into that. I’m good at describing how the economy works. There’s no way that I can get into this. You’re looking for a solution to the problems that there are today. We don’t have a problem; we have a quandary. There is no solution to a quandary.

You’re trying to solve it, forget it. You can’t solve it. It’s nice for you to think, “Wouldn’t it be nice if they could work this way?” Of course, it would be nice if corporations could buy back the stocks and give it to the workers. But look at how bizarre this would be for an oil company. Suppose you have 10 employees that make $10 billion a year for the company because the 10 employees run the well. Are you really going to say we’ll buy back the stock and 10 employees each get a billion dollars? That’s crazy.

And that would be the case with any highly capital-intensive corporation. It would make some labor people much richer than the rest of the labor force. It’s an anti-social solution to benefit a small group against the other, and it’s so dysfunctional, that I’m sure that the Chicago school would love to push it, because it can’t possibly be done because it’s so unfair and predatory.

lol get em

Anastasia Bendebury

But let’s take something like Walmart, for example. So, Walmart is notorious for generating an enormous amount of profit for the owners, very little profit for the wage earners. And so, let’s say that some revolutionary arm of the Walton family becomes the controlling CEO and takes over the board of the company. And they’re like, “You know what, we have a legacy of doing really really screwed up things to our workers. And so, what we’re going to do is we’re going to buy back all of our shares. And as we buy them back, we will redistribute them equally to the workers.”

Michael Hudson

Why not just pay the workers more? Instead of making the profits, why not ease the working conditions? Why not say we’re going to have a four-day work week and we’re going to have people work six hours a day. We’re going to pay them more. We’re going to give them more vacations. We’re going to give them free medical care. And we’re going to contribute to their pensions. Why do it financially? You don’t need a financial solution to a real economic problem. The real economic problem is workers’ conditions. What is their standard of living? It’s not how they’re going to own shares of a company that acts by being predatory and making money in a predatory way, big profit and profiteering, like a Walmart does.

like lol lmao, what kind of fucking question is that? What if the capitalist class acted in opposition to their own interests as a member of the capitalist class? galaxy-brain

Michael Hudson

Well at least a revolution. Not a Constitution yet. A revolution.

Michael Shilo DeLay

Well, I don’t think a revolution is a good idea, unless we have a better idea of what comes next. I’m actually really opposed to revolution that doesn’t have a better solution in mind.

Idealism and its consequences... We have a solution, we have had it for a hundred fucking years.

Not to even mention all the brainless anti-China rhetoric they tried to slip in at every moment. Like my dudes, you live in the most powerful dictatorship of the bourgeoisie in the history of earth. You are the bad guys.

Anastasia Bendebury

Okay, so I don’t want to create a dichotomy of you know, that the United States is better than China or China is better than United States, because I think that it’s one of those topics that you could probably start to take apart and point into totally opposite directions. But it seems like the state is particularly repressive in China. Like we saw what happened during COVID, right? And so, people were locked into their apartments. People were basically at the mercy of the government saying, you know, “No, this is what we’re going to do. You have no voice. You have no option.” And it was pretty dark to look at from the outside because for all of the problems that the United States has, and for all of the political wrangling that happened over the course of the last few years, at the very least, we weren’t barricading people inside their apartments.

1,170,006 Americans died from COVID.