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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 months ago (27 children)

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

I'm sure the Israelis always planned for Genocide but I'm sure Biden was working to prevent it.

So the op is about how Biden was not doing anything to prevent it and how he was just letting them do whatever they wanted. Did you actually read any part of it?

Are you just arguing old talking points whenever you see people being critical of how Biden handled the situation?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (26 children)

I know this is a wordy response but you included a full fucking amnesty international article in your reply so if anything mine is much more concise.


The Amnesty International article your shared calls on USA, Germany, UK, and other key EU members to end shipments of arms to Israel. Full stop, that was never going to happen. To remove the largest strategic military position in the region is absolutely not on the table, whether we like it or not that is a fact. All of those nations, to some extent, heavily limited arms deals to Israel after the occupation began, which was good.

Hypothetically, if we did cut off all arms to Israel, then they would be surrounded by very angry adversaries that they have been fighting for almost a century. Israel would just become another slightly different genocide and you would be sitting there explaining it to the next generation the same way the old belligerent honkies are trying to explain it to us now.

The best possible outcome, in my opinion, would have been the USA removing Netanyahu from power by not acknowledging his authority after his previous removal for corruption and forcing a new election to be held in Israel.

The most realistic outcome would be propping up the Israelis, conditionally to the extent that they could lose some land to adversaries if they're not following the rules, and also propping up Palestine starting with the rebuilding of their infrastructure and peacekeeping with foreign troops such that any attack on Palestinians could result in conflict with those nations.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Dude, you know you've lost the plot when you're resorting to deflecting and whataboutism.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

When you have to start your argument with a fucking Merriam Webster definition, you should realize that your argument is shit. (This is of course the royal "you")

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