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Sure, but have you considered that Kamala had a weird laugh
Musk will light your taxes on fire. Obama was huge on deportation. Kamala is a gun owner. OK, why won't you vote for Kamala then? "I just don't like her. She laughs weird." I couldn't believe it, but it shouldn't shock me. How do you even keep going after that?
It wasn't really about the laugh.
Yea, some of them also noticed she is a minority and a woman. Sadly our country has not accepted those groups are just as capable as white men to lead a country.
She laughs like a black woman!
Ok that's actually a hysterical take. That's probably exactly what those people mean.
I remember reading that immigration groups called Obama the deporter in chief. Trump wishes he could get a nickname that would go that hard with his base.
Republicans often try to liken women to witches in their constituents minds. It's their go to smear. They hate women. They want them back in the kitchen under control of men, just like the propaganda that transformed post war America pushed
This is such a stupid argument and I wouldn’t believe it if it wasn’t for my dad. He keeps talking about her laugh and I explain to him that it’s appropriate to express all emotions…. And he doesn’t believe it. He’s also unable to connect me being in therapy and his behavior.
The statistics of who stayed home VS who voted for a white man with the same policies (older white men/women and older hispanic men) shows most of the votes lost are from Kamala being a colored woman and our most bigoted groups responding accordingly.
100%. A woman of color? No way.
This is why AOC can't run for president. We would just be stuck with Trump 3.0 or some Republican poser.
I think AOC could win since she's young and when younger generations do vote it's for younger progressive people.
But it also requires them actually communicating policies that will get young people to go vote.
Two very qualified women have been beaten by the worst presidential candidate in the history of the country.
In what world do you think the answer is running another woman?
I love AOC. I think she is the future of this country. But she would be much more effective in the senate. Let Gavin, Walz, or someone else who is in the white dude category be on the top of the ticket.
Is that fair? No. But do you want to be fair or do you want to win elections?
Running on the status quo of a dying empire they lost to a populist lying about ousting corruption and forcing change. This story is a lot older than identity politics.
Two milquetoast Neoliberal women lost because them being women was enough to lose the few % of support their male counterparts had.
I think most people want leftist leadership these days. Most people want a third party.
So the issue with this thinking, is that those percentages will still be there no matter what candidate it is. I do agree with you that people generally prefer leftist policies. I'm a progressive, and would love a Bernie platform to be the policy foundations for the country.
The issue is, if you're going to voluntarily cede 2-4% of your electorate just because they are a woman, why not run someone who's a guy who has the same policy legs.
Personally I would vote for either. Idk if Bernie would make through a presidency but it would be a solid ticket if it was Bernie+ AOC as VP
Bernie is just too old. I'm tired of geriatric people being in charge, to be honest.
He believes all the right things, but the issue is he has never, in his time in the senate, ever gotten anything major passed.
That is a huge part of leadership. You can't just 'be right' you have to also get things done. I love love love Bernie's ideas, but he has never been a good leader in that dept.
Except young people (or all people) need to go vote in primaries for those they want.
You can't just wait for your perfect person to show up magically. Ie. Policies reflect people who vote, not the other way around.
People claimed that the tiktok people and the swifties are gonna pull the ship around because they would vote for the younger dynamic more progressive candidates. Turns out, they would rather make tiktoks about it.
Which canidates?
You can't just expect people who were just children to magically figure out how to create a political party to rival global billionaires.
They need someone young and progressive to vote for. Kamala is neither of those btw
I know, but the idea was that they would vote for kamala, because it's the lesser evil. And it would scare the piss out of boomers when they see they are outnumbered
I think if we are expecting young progressive people to vote for representation they will want at least young or progressive leadership.
Kamala was neither of those things
She was the lesser evil, but I think America is sick of choosing evil at all.
They are sick of choosing the lesser evil, that's why they just always pick the most evil
This unironically
If our only choices are stagnation or decline then fuck it burn it down
I guess we have the same father even though I don't live anywhere near the US.
I remember a stand up comedian making fun of someone laughing on his show, because it was a very shrill and loud laugh. And later he said: imagine making fun of someone for the way they express joy (or something) and that somehow sat really deep with me.
Also, those dumbass's who think a woman can't be president.
Unfortunately that includes a lot of women, making it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
My mom will still tell you that things would be much worse if Harris had won. Can't say how, but she doesn't hear the sarcasm when I suggest we'd all be learning Mandarin online while recovering from forced gender reassignment surgery and seems to consider that a legitimate possibility.
Most of those women were raised brainwashed by their church and family to be subservient to their man. In retrospect, giving those women in particular the right to vote might've been a mistake. It essentially just doubled the weight of their spouses vote.
That's the drawback of universal suffrage, not just women's suffrage....most people are idiots and easily manipulated. Women just moreso because of countless generations of oppressive patriarchy.
But there's no real good way to test a voter without opening the floodgates for fraud and discrimination...so here we are. Idiots in charge.
-Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant
He had such a way with words, he did.
I really, sincerely hope that this current series of events leads to a period of American Enlightenment where we have a renewed focus on education, science, and the arts.
The weakest point in a representative democracy is very much so the uneducated public. The bigger their voter pool, the more they can drag down everyone else.
Probably won't, most of us will probably be dead long before that happens, and certainly before we could reap the rewards of it. But it would be nice.
The way the state handled the uneducated masses in White or Black was to keep a common enemy.
In that work, everyone gets an implant that helps them live longer and provides immunity to disease, but it causes a major weakness to the substance "Black Matter". Black Matter is a substance discovered in the mid-21st century, generated by extreme emotion like mania and rage. Since Black Matter can actually kill people with the implant if the concentration is too high, nearly everyone with an implant is united in keeping Black Matter under control.
The intellectuals and scientists, provided they are trusted by the state, are allowed to handle materials that cause people to generate Black Matter. The rank-and-file don't really mind this, since they trust that the state will keep their best interests in mind. After all, if the state doesn't keep their best interests in mind, lots of unrest will occur, which means massive Black Matter generation, which means mass death.
I'm really not looking forward to finding out how well "Mutually Assured Destruction" works in the real world. Lately, that seems to be the controlling-party's entire ethos. As long as it hurts them more.
Interestingly, that appears to be how the implant people in White or Black took over. Red and Blue blew each other up, causing many to sign up with the implant people. And what remained of Red and Blue in opposition to the implant people were nearly eradicated by the late 2090s.
A second MAD failed against the implant people because their hold on the world was too strong. It took until the 27th century for their (human) opposition to become a noticeable threat again. Until that time, people were mainly kept in line by the fear of Black Matter, which could be likened to toxic waste.
I am expecting the US to splinter, with people shuffling around to the splinter that best represents their ideology. It will be messy, but I think Blue States will benefit from no longer having to appease the Turdpublican mindset.
Terry Pratchett died far too young.
Americans will delude themselves into thinking Harris lost because of identity politics all the way to the concentration camps.
Schodinger's cat applies here. We will never know how good or bad Kamala would have been since she didn't win. However, since 47 has done so much shit to damage the country in ways worse than imagined, I'd say she'd done better.
BTW, have you ever heard Trump laughing at anything? That's even weirder IMO.
She would have been better. Biden was an OK president that was ruined by his brazen pro-genocide stance. It doesn't take a lot to be better than Trump.
In america a pro genocide president is still an okay president. Most school children drone stiked AND getting the nobel peace prize. Best president we ever had i tell you what.
I told my friends back in mid-October of 2023 that I thought the Hamas attack was probably 1.) heavily influenced by Russia, and 2.) going to throw the election to Trump or whoever the Republican candidate was going to be unless he could get that thing zipped up and a peace deal in place within a month or two.
So stupid. Biden could have done better so easily. But here we are, I guess, witnessing the oligarchy take over the world, using Trump and Musk as patsy’s, letting hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and Ukrainians die by the hand of genocidal fuckwits.
It's a competition to destroy the US and your opponent is Donald Trump.
That's about the only competitive scenario you could put me in vs. Trump and I'd despair that there would be no path to victory for me.
I mean Biden was personally killing Palestinians so let's all make sure Trump does worse too so checkmate lIbRuL. Ps I'm morally superior because I think my self righteous social media posts matter way more than the outcome I cause with my actions. And if you disagree? Well, you love genocide! /s
She also was hugely supportive of genocide, is a cop, huge opponent of sex workers, promised to outflank trump to the right on immigration and crime, had a terrible climate change plan including backtracking on things like fracking, terrible health care policy, denied any economic problems and her solution to massive poverty and increasing inequality boiled down to increased ease of first home buyers. She had terrible policies no reason to whitewash her.
She also has no penis and is awefully dark for a good old white American