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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/25042034

This post is "FYI only" for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.

I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the "adult human female" dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and "civil disagreement" on the validity of trans folk.

I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to "sort it out through discussion and voting". However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little "sorting out" has occurred. The posts remain in place.

At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.

I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (18 children)

It can vary on the context, but "female" and "male" are "supposed" to refer to biological sex alone.

That's why it can be offensive when men talk about women as "females", and why it also would sound slightly silly to talk about — for instance — women penguins. "Female penguins" sounds much more correct, doesn't it?

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 6 points 3 months ago (9 children)

So the problem is the word "female", not the word "woman", am I understand this correctly? If I am, then what should the correct sentence/statement be? "A woman is an adult ..."

I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely confused because I thought XX -> female, XY -> male, but there are a bunch of combinations that present themselves / have a male or female phenotype. Is woman supposed to be the gender and female the sex?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Is woman supposed to be the gender and female the sex?

Yes.

But like I've said, the issue is that most people don't know their difference between "gender" and "sex". Hell, my native language doesn't even have two distinct words, which is a huge negative when trying to educate them on the subject.

And because they don't understand the difference, they sometimes, or all the time, think "woman" refers to the biological sex, and thus they insist "men can't become women", because biologically you don't change from male to female, and that is true. But your gender does change from masculine to feminine, so it is not wrong to say that men can become women.

It's honestly just a lack understanding. And that lack of understanding stems from fear of seeming stupid, so they fear talking about it and interacting with the subject. Which is why it's called transphobia, despite those people not necessarily being directly afraid of trans people.

Languages, or gender identities, are never quite as straight forward as we'd like them to be.

[–] 3dogsinatrenchcoat@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

biologically you don't change from male to female, and that is true.

"Biological sex" refers to many different traits, some of them changeable, some of them not. It would not be inaccurate to refer to medical transition as changing one's biological sex

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Okay, that is true enough, biologically you do change, but not genetically, or gonadly, at least not yet. Who knows what the future brings?

I'm just trying to "use their language" to get the ideas through, not trying to differentiate between trans and cis. In fact that's sort of been my point that there's usually just no need to.

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