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The LGBTQ movements go as far back as 1924 in the USA, and Illinois was the first state to legalize homosexuality in 1962.
Stonewall Riots was in 1969.
One could even argue that the real turning point for gay rights was: A) APA removal of Homosexuality from list of mental illnesses in 1973 and B) Reagan gutting federal funded and operated mental asylums which for completely unrelated reasons I think was a bad idea.
The first legalized Gay Marriage law was passed in Massachusetts in 2004 but still is not recognized federally until 2015.
So stonewall accomplished fuck all, congrats
Your claim was that the movements did not have violence at all, not that the violence featured in them didn't accomplish anything. You're moving the goalposts.
I suppose that's a fair criticism, but you would be hard pressed to find any human activity which has always been completely 100% devoid of violence so it rather strongly implied that the [successful aspects of] the movements were devoid of riots or threats of violence.
There have been successful progressive movements that have achieved their goals through violence as well though. If you don't limit the actions of progressives to the last century, the abolitionist movement and the civil war were incredibly violent and achieved their goals through that violence.
It's like a hammer. It can be used to build something great. Or it can bludgeon.