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C'mon guys this is such an easy win for us as a country. Justin went a little too far with his style of governing for a lot of you and now the liberals have voted this guy to be it's leader and new PM. This is who we want to lead us into the second half of the 20th century, this guy is so fucking smart. Pierre just sings slogans and simple pretty things that sound nice but in reality he's just going to sell us off to American interests and cut the things that help working people.

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[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (31 children)

“If you're a fan of the established order of capitalism Carney's your guy for sure…”

I think both Pierre and Carney fit this description.
However one will cheer on the 51st state and one will lead a stable economy

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 58 points 3 months ago (29 children)

No, it doesn’t. There are two important differences.

PP is a devotee of the cult of the free market, that markets are best and all we need to do is remove restrictions on them. Carney believes markets should serve to people, that the end goal isn’t just naked efficiency but they we need market forces directed to get human-centric outcomes.

This is extensively covered in Carney’s 2021 book “Values” which I encourage everyone to read in order to understand the important differences in these approaches. Carney’s approach is an explicit rejection of the idiotic free market cultism of PP and his ilk.

Another critical difference is in competence. Carney is an experienced leader who was so well-regarded in his field that the UK selected him as the first ever non-local to run the Bank of England. Whereas PP can’t even manage to handle questions from friendly press, let alone lead something.

So no, they are not the same. You might still want to prefer an explicitly socialist approach that rejects markets entirely, which is a legitimate perspective for sure. But aside from the revolution party no one is really advocating that at the federal level.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Well put and I second the encouragement to read his book. If nothing else it will help one understand Economics a little better.

[–] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the middle of it now and it's only made me want this guy as our PM even more. But honestly most people today couldn't read a book to save their life

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agreed on the first point, his book is a very good argument for him to be PM. But I wouldn't say "Couldn't read" to save their life, but unwilling to read that which they don't already assume they will agree with. Which is a problem across the political spectrum unfortunately.

[–] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's is true, but honestly I know VERY few people irl that actually own books other than their textbooks from college or uni. They all scroll and get their news and Infor from Instagram or tiktok. It's fucked and makes me incredibly worried about the future and it being full of people with the attention span of a walnut

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you may need to surround yourself with better people, or work to influence the ones you already know in a positive way.

[–] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Oh believe me it's already something I'm actively looking out for. Just closing on mine and my wife's first house, changing jobs, election etc, so much going on and it's just.... Yeah it's one of those times in your life where you just move on with who you hangout with and who you want to hangout with. People grow and should grow.

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